I’m happy to have here today the developers of this farmstead community that really embodies my full mantra, Food, Water, Energy, Security, Barterability, Wealth Preservation, Community and Shelter. It’s a community of like-minded people! Joining this off-grid property doesn’t have to just be for a bug-out situation, it’s also something that could be quite affordable for everyone.
CHAPTERS:
0:00 Resiliency Ranch
9:30 The Concept
13:47 Community
21:48 Homestead Living
33:23 Becoming a Member
42:33 Getting Started!
TRANSCRIPT FROM VIDEO:
Lynette Zang (00:00):
Y’all know, or those that have been watching me for a while, know that I discovered the hole in my personal strategy back in March/April, in 2020 when there were riots near my house and I thought, oh, I need a bug out location. I need an alternative location. And then of course, when I’m out and I’m doing events, I meet people all the time. And so many are looking for bug-out opportunities and many thinking about leaving the US as the answer, but they don’t really have the time or funds to go and establish their foreign bug out location. Nor am I personally sure that that will protect you. Anyway, since this is frankly a global issue. Today, I am very happy to share with you a US alternative called Resiliency Ranch. And this is a farmstay community and vacation destination built around a fully functional operating farm or ranch that’s set up to train people who want to learn to be more self-reliant.
Lynette Zang (01:13):
I’m happy to have here today the developers of this farmstead community that really embodies my full mantra, Food, Water, Energy, Security, Barterability, Wealth Preservation, Community and Shelter. So a community of like-minded people that it doesn’t have to just be for a bug out, and it’s something that could be quite affordable for everyone. You can find the contact links below, and you’ve met Sean before because he’s the one that’s been helping me with my personal contingency plan. So I’d like to really welcome Sean and David, the developers of Resiliency Ranch. Guys, thank you so much for being here today.
New Speaker (02:03):
If you think that the world is headed in a direction that makes you a bit concerned for the future, and you’d like to be as self-sufficient and independent as possible, then you’ve come to the right place. My name is Lynette Zang. Now it’s time to go Beyond Gold and Silver.
Lynette Zang (02:24):
Sean, you’ve been on before you’ve been on the show, so our viewers are familiar with you cause you’ve been on more than once. And now we have now we have David. So welcome David. It’s good to see you.
David Fabry (02:39):
Thank you Lynette.
Lynette Zang (02:40):
You’re welcome. And the two of you are doing a new venture along with some other people. So why don’t you, I mean, Community is super important to, to me it’s, it’s super important to everybody and I know how Sean feels about it, but I’m really excited to hear about your resiliency Ranch cause it, it feels to me like it embodies my whole mantra, Food, Water, Energy, Security, Barterability, Wealth Preservation, Community and Shelter. So how did you come about starting this and why don’t you tell us more about it?
Sean Connelly (03:15):
Sure. I can kind of start a little bit, you know, Lynette, as you know, and when we’ve talked about it previously on your show is, you know, seeing what’s going on in the world and seeing the environment and, and understanding, you know, when we work with people with through the, some of the projects I’ve worked with you on, where we’re looking at what people have and one of the biggest gaps we see is, you know, the community aspect. Yeah. And the community. You know, cause you can’t do this by yourself no matter who thinks they can. It’s like you’ve gotta have that asset of the community and you know, the resiliency of having a team that all thinks, you know, similarly and wants to go up there and, and well, no matter whether it’s in your local town or local area, it has to be people. You can’t just, whether it’s barterability, food, anything else, you have to have somebody who can help watch your back.
Lynette Zang (04:04):
Right. Grow, right. Trust.
Sean Connelly (04:06):
Absolutely. And then build that trust in advance. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>, because that’s one of those things. It’s, it’s very hard in a stressful environment to build that trust. It can come and it comes as a greater cost unless it’s built in advance. So that was one of our big things. And when we, when I was really working with you on your team and kind of helping to evaluate some of the things that were going on, I got to meet with Dave through some different connections. And we were able to go into the process of, okay, we, we see this gap and how do we mm-hmm. <Affirmative> fill it for not just people who have a large amount of wealth, but for just the general population of people who want to connect and wanna have that community aspect and, you know, can’t pack up and move to the mountains.
Sean Connelly (04:48):
And, and the thing is, is you can, if, but the problem is, is most of the way people are situated, if you end up buying a cabin in the middle of nowhere, you can’t put in the financial and the time resources that it takes to build that into a whole community for long term. And you’ll just be a remote, you know prepper per say, which I don’t think is, you know works in, in the long term. So what we look at is how do you, how do you build this community aspect? And so Dave and I separately, especially Dave’s background, I’ll let you explain a little bit about it. We, we came to the realization that we want to build this a network of communities, a network of resiliency ranches around the country. And that’s where we’re starting off is building this network of communities with a project here as our flagship here in Arizona. But we’re gonna continue to build multiple ones around the country that bring in this aspect of, you know, it’s a, it’s opportunity for training, it’s an opportunity for community, it’s also an opportunity for, you know, vacation and, and recreation and those things that you do as a family. Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>. So it’s, it’s an education community, recreation while you’re also learning the homesteading skills, you’re learning and helping provide for food resources for your family for the future, and building that community and taking your capitalism skills. And if you have the ability to be able to, to teach if you have the, like my wife does, or if you have the ability to be able to do some sort of sewing or, or you can also take those skills and bring that to the community and help learn. Teach but also help provide resources and use that as a capitalist environment. So I’ll kind of turn over to Dave and see where he wants to talk a little bit.
David Fabry (06:28):
Sure. So, yeah, exactly. And, and you know, Lynette, you talk about community, you talk about natural resources. You talk about being prepared. What we want to do with the Resiliency Ranch is to is to help people that they’ve seen it over the last couple of years. The, the, the, the, the fragility of the supply chain, the the, yeah. The, the, the, the reduction in availability of food. And so they, they know that they need to get out and homestead or they, they have, they have an urge to get out in homestead, but homesteading on your own is, is, is, is, is, is a big challenge. It’s yes, it is really hard,
Lynette Zang (07:12):
Yes, it is. And it’s very expensive. <Laugh>.
David Fabry (07:15):
Exactly. Exactly. So what we’re trying to provide is a way for people to homestead together in a community setting. Animals don’t take holidays. They don’t know what Christmas is. They don’t know what you know, they don’t, they don’t care if you want to take a a vacation. They need to be fed. They need to be taken care of. So if you can do that in a community setting, you can still continue to live your life, you know, as a we, we like to say it’s, it’s, it’s thriving rather than just surviving. Right. And so we wanna help people do that. And you know, as, as as Sean said, our flagship property here in Arizona. We’re, we’re trying to build that that, that that farmstead community, so community based around that farm agriculture. And one of the key resources that you need for that is water. Yes. And especially here in Arizona. I just drove yesterday back from a a conference in, in Las Vegas, drove past Lake Mead and, and the Oh, yeah. The, the level of that leg is just unbelievable.
Lynette Zang (08:21):
Yeah. I think it’s the lowest it’s ever been, or something really close to that dead body. Exactly. Oh, gross. But yeah,
David Fabry (08:28):
Yeah, exactly. <Laugh>. And so, you know, that, that speaks volumes to, to, to the, the, the, the scarcity and the value of having that natural resource. And so that’s one of the first things we look for in a, in a resiliency ranch.
Lynette Zang (08:42):
So are you sitting on top of an aquifer and I mean?
David Fabry (08:46):
Yeah. So our, our property actually has the water 16 feet below the surface. And it’s been pretty much that same level for the, the past hundred years of measurements of that of that area. And so you know, it’s a, it is, it’s definitely, it is definitely a property that that, that has the longevity. It’s not, it’s not been, you know, you haven’t seen the water levels go down like you’ve seen in Lake Mead or in Lake Powell.
Lynette Zang (09:13):
Yeah. Well, you know, up in northern Arizona, you know, we get a lot more rain and a lot more snow. So in Phoenix it’s a desert. Lake Mead, I think it’s a desert around there. Mm-Hmm. Too. Mm-hmm. <Affirmative>, that’s a manmade lake. So this is like critically important. Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>. But, you know, when I go out to, especially either speaking engagements or when people come into the office and I’m, and I’m talking to people, you know, everybody wants to, you know, find a place to bug out. Right? But they don’t know how to go about it. And I can’t tell you how many people I talk to that, that think they’re gonna go and magically bug out in South America somewhere, <laugh>. But all of this takes like a lot of time to figure out and to create those connections. So you’re actually setting in that foundation, and you, you said that at, is that right? You’re setting in that whole foundation.
David Fabry (10:10):
That’s right.
Lynette Zang (10:11):
But it’s at an affordable level, or, you know, talk to me more about who can participate in this. And if you’re in Arizona or actually anywhere around there, you could drive to Northern Arizona in a couple three hours, something like that. Which, so, which I like, I like it to be, you know, if I need to leave now, I’m not gonna be able to make plain reservations and then find a place down the, all of this has to be pre-thought out and mm-hmm. <Affirmative> ability to get there.
Sean Connelly (10:46):
So one of the, the, the concepts with this, this ranch is, so what we’re looking at is we’re, we’re trying to find and, and I’ll kind of give you a little bit of example. What we’re doing with this property is, okay, we’re finding an existing agricultural property or, you know, piece of land, preferably around a hundred plus acres that, okay. That has some food production already. For example, this one’s got a cattle production on a ranch, and it’s got hay production already. So please, that’s one of the things we take that, or, or as we’re looking at expanding the nationwide and we’re looking at other properties, one of the properties we looked at towards Texas was actually had, you know, blackberry crops, blueberry crops, it had you know a fish hatchery kind of thing on.
Sean Connelly (11:25):
You know, so it had the number of food production already. And then we were gonna plan is to, to pop capture the property and the purchase and then do build a community of an organization that can allow people to come on there, like a private organization. PMA type thing where people can come and become a member and become a part of this investment. And then from there, we’re gonna increase the food supply and then subdivided in a way that allows people to create a lot on the property. And then they can either build, or, I mean, if there’s some existing pro houses we could work out and how we, if it does, but most of the time it’ll be small piece of property where people can build their, but then eventually own part of the ranch.
Sean Connelly (12:11):
And so instead of an HOA you would be part of the ranching community or the farming community, and you’d be able to build those relationships in that community aspect and could become a vacation home. It could become an Airbnb you wanted to rent out occasionally, when we hold some of these home setting conferences, some of these home setting classes, you could, you could attend. And if you, if you can’t attend, then you can, you know, allow other participants to rent your property if you wanted to. So it allows people to utilize this property over long term. So things implode in six months. You’re, you know, you’ve got, you know, you’re starting to build that community. If implodes 10 years from now, you have a great time to, with your family, to grow in relationships with people and, and develop your property per se, as a long term legacy property. Because the intention hopefully is for these to become legacy properties where it’s, Hey, you know, I love this cabin. I love this with my family. We were able to go up there a couple times a year, something maybe if you’re a little older, or if you decide likely with my family, like, hey, well homes to the School of Kids, and we’ll move out there permanently. It would be a, a type of opportunity where it becomes something that, that you can pass on from generation to generation. And it continues to grow. The farm setting continues to grow. The homestead continues to grow. The whole idea is to build a legacy here instead of just a bug out place. It’s a mm-hmm. <Affirmative>, it’s a community that we’re trying to intend to build. So that’s the intention there. Instead of, like you said, somebody hopping in a plane and going to somewhere they’d never been before, or they bought a blind cabin in the middle of nowhere, they think they’re gonna live off of. This is your building relationships with people, which is your greatest asset. And then those people are building a community that they can pass on from generation to generation.
Lynette Zang (13:47):
So how, how do you vet the people that are coming into the community to make sure that there’s not a rotten apple that could spoil the whole batch. Is there a vetting process?
David Fabry (14:02):
All right. Sure. <laugh>. So, so, you know, Sean had mentioned a PMA, a Private Membership Association that works similar to like a like an HOA where there are, there are governing rules of, of, of, you know the rules of behavior. But you know, we also, through that application process into the PMA you know, we’ll, we’ll want to get to know and to, to understand who it is that’s that’s, that’s coming in the community. Cause you know, as, as your, as your, as your question alludes to Lynette, I mean, we wanna, we wanna make sure that we don’t bring in you know…
Lynette Zang (14:42):
A plant
David Fabry (14:43):
Right? Yeah, exactly. So to speak. So, yeah. Right. so, you know, it’s, it’s a it’s, it’s, it’s kind of a, kind of a safe haven community. We want, you know, we want people to feel that they can come there in, in a, in a crisis and and, you know, not have to worry about those, those, those bad apples being there that that, that, you know, will cause cause issues. And, and a lot of that vetting process happens through the community building. So as we’re doing the training courses as we’re, as we’re having community events we’ll, we’ll get to know the people pretty well. And, and and, and so in addition to having people living full-time we open up the training to people that want to come and vacation. So it’s a it’s a, a kind of a resort community where you know, again, we don’t, we don’t want people to just have to survive. We want them to thrive. We want them to have live in a beautiful place that that has natural beauty, gives them the ability to get out and, and and enjoy nature. Whether that’s ATVing, horseback riding, hiking, fishing, you know, whatever can, you know, can go on on a property. We want that to be the, the, the, the, you know, kind of the, the, the primary use. And then in the, in a crisis, then, then, then we come together as a community and, and, and provide that that self-sufficiency and that self sustainability.
Lynette Zang (16:12):
Right. Are, are you looking for people with different skill sets like, you know, doctors, bakers, gardeners, farmers, you know is that part of the criteria is that you’re looking for different roles that would need to be filled in a community?
David Fabry (16:32):
So I would say that you know, we, we do need that diversity mm-hmm. <Affirmative> we do need a a community that has all of those aspects available. One of the things we want to do on the community is to, is to create a to have it as a, as a bit of a business incubator. We want it as a as an, as an entrepreneurial capitalist community where where we support small business within the community. It could be a medical clinic, it could be a a farm to table restaurant. We wanna be able to, to, to have the ability to provide the technical services like repairing a tractor. You know, we need somebody that knows that has the mechanical skills. Yeah. and so so to answer your question, yes, that’s that’s, that’s, you know, we, we, we definitely want to have a diversity of, of, of skills so that, you know, and you talk about bartering skills, I mean, you know, when exactly, when, when the monetary system is, is, is down. I mean, the dollars in terminal decline, it’s, it’s, you know, it’s, well, I, I’m speaking of the choir here, <laugh>.
Lynette Zang (17:38):
That’s ok
David Fabry (17:39):
But, you know, we need to have some other mechanism for commerce. And you know, that’s that’s, I I like where the, the, the, the PMA could come in into into play there where you don’t need the three letter governmental agencies sticking their nose into your commercial business, your, your, your adult voluntary transactions between consenting adults. Right. So, if I wanna buy food from you, if I want you to butcher my cow I don’t need a, a, a regulatory agency telling you how to do that for me. So that’s, you know, part of, part of the, the, the, the, the self-sustainability and the and the and the self-regulating aspect of the, of the community that we wanna build.
Lynette Zang (18:23):
Yeah. It’s, it’s a little challenging, you know, to do that because they do wanna come in and make sure that all ts are crossed, all i’s are dotted, and Right. Of course, all good citizens should do everything that they’re supposed to do within the legal limits of the law. So, of course. How do you feel about that? And Sean, I think you were gonna say something.
Sean Connelly (18:45):
Yeah, I mean, I think that’s, you know, I mean, we’re definitely looking at, that’s where the, the legal membership organizations like co-ops or other or PMA’s, allow you to legally structure yourself to where the community can buy the food, can barter their food and barter the services within their, within their body of regulatory which allows you to not be a commercial operation for external. So there’s, there’s a lot of legal ramifications on that, and that’s where we’ve talked to a lot. We, we’ll continue to talk to attorneys and bring them on board to where, where we structure things like this. It’s, it allows you to operate within the law and operate in, in good faith at the same time as being able to, you know, to keep it a more of exclusive club, which allows, you know, to do faster moving with less regulatory burdensome requirements. And that’s important. Yeah. And that’s where we get a lot of this done. And then on the broader aspect of the community, one of the things we talked we do is, you know, when we go in, and that’s one of the things you and I’ve talked about before with your your properties and with your local community is, is becoming part of that community Yeah. Where it’s, you know, you’re not just, you know, counting on the people on the ranch or the people on your, you know, location or wherever people go. It’s also understanding what the needs of the community is. I mean, if there’s a need for, you know, some more education, if there’s a need for investment capital, I mean, there might be some good businesses already existing that can help, like a small rancher who’s, or a good meat producer or something, or butcher that can help that your investment capital can help them build and expand their business. It’s one of the things I’m looking at trying to, you know, help, you know, build communities within this country. And our, our network is being able to invest in the local communities that already exist. So finding communities that, that are like-minded and think about freedom and, and let that aspect, and then be able to, hey, the, the education system, I was telling some, I was telling somebody, if you’ve invest a hundred thousand dollars into Phoenix School, Phoenix school districts, or Scottsdale school district, you’re not gonna be able to do much of an impact. Right. But if you go to, you know, a small town like Eager, Arizona or somewhere else, and you gave that local school an investment of a hundred thousand dollars to teach some home setting curriculum that could, you know, drastically impact that school or, or a small fire department that has, you know, five members and then 20 volunteers, you know, in, in, in the mountains, you know, when you invest in, in their fundraising operations.
Sean Connelly (21:09):
And help them, they, they’re also more happy to help you. I mean, so sometimes you invest a little more than you expect to on the up upfront, but they, you know, it builds that relationship and helps them improve their skills to where if you do need ’em down the road, it, it helps. So, right. And that’s where we, we a take this aspect of the community. And that’s where a lot of the resiliency ranches come from. Groups of like-minded individuals who say, Hey, we wanna start one of these, and they come together and maybe it’s five or six friends, maybe it’s, you know, 15, 20 people that already kind of has a community or has a piece of land and doesn’t know how to do that. That’s where we can also come in and help help them create this for themselves and their families.
Lynette Zang (21:48):
Well, I love also that you said that this is, this is just the start of a whole network all around the country, right? Correct. And so, are there others that are doing this as well, that you’re modeling this off of? Or is this a, is this more of a new kind of thing up here?
Sean Connelly (22:07):
There, there are some communities, well, if, if you took an example, like if in in Phoenix there’s a place called a Agritopia, where it was, you know, they built the, the, the neighborhood around the farmstead. Now the farmstead is still owned by the, a Agritopia Company corporation. So it’s not a per se HOA that, you know, we would, we would look at where the owners of the community actually own it. But I mean, there’s also some other different ones. A couple different places around the country where people were, are putting together these homestead type communities. And it’s becoming a popular concept, but nobody that we found is doing it. Where, where we are in the sense of putting it together with, with the intention in mind of teaching the classes and building the homesteading community like this. I think if you wanna, there’s a couple that Dave and I have looked at that have similar concepts one out in Georgia and one others, but I don’t think they, they don’t capture the, the full intent of what we’re doing. They are little communities that you can, that either vacation type communities or their homes neighborhood type communities. But I don’t think they integrate them all the way we we’re looking at.
Lynette Zang (23:16):
And I, and I like the fact that you’re now, do you have an option? What if people can’t afford to, to buy, but they wanna be part of, is there an option for that in this community as well? Or, or do you have to come in with, you know, and I don’t like to talk, really. It’s not, I don’t think it’s appropriate to talk about numbers in here. But you said affordable for most. But is there an option if you have, you know, no money at all, but you’re really seeking a community like this for, for you to integrate in as an individual?
Sean Connelly (23:58):
Well, I think that’s where right now, I mean, that’s one of the things we’re, we’re trying to work out the, not the kinks, but the the proof of concept here in Arizona with this first initial ranch. And our intention is basically to allow that type of thing. For example, if somebody says, Hey, I, I live in Florida, I’ve got, you know, network with several people that wanna put this together and they don’t have the capital put it together, but they can help us raise the capital, they can help us put together the ranch, they can help find the land. There are ways that people can, can invest and help, you know, do that hopefully in at some intent. And the intent is hopefully once we lay out the neighborhoods and lay out the land, there will be some affordable very varying affordability. So some higher end properties as well as some lower end, just like most neighborhoods. So I, I think that’s the intention. Right now, until we build up the community aspect and the, and the ranch itself, it’s gonna be tough to figure out exactly how that, that plays out. But the intention is obviously, you know, not to make this as much of a capital burden as for people as much as it is. Right. You know, and it, and human capital and their investment and their time is the big thing. Cause we wanna help as many people as possible. That’s our goal. Yeah. And I mean the, the, and then, and to say, I mean, the reality is if people are interested, they’re gonna have to invest something.
Lynette Zang (25:15):
Right something, if you don’t invest anything, then it has no value to you. It’s not a big deal. Right. You know, so you can invest money in, but it’s that sweat equity that’s, it’s that, you know, really getting in there and helping this come to life that really, then you have meaning cause you, now you’ve married it, right?
David Fabry (25:39):
Right. Well, and I, maybe I can add a little bit of a little bit of additional information to what Sean was talking about there. You know, we’re, we’re still at the, at the, at the very beginning stage is our, you know, the first, the first step for us on our flagship property is to, is to acquire the property and, and then build out the development plan and, and all of the the, the, the, the structural framework, the, the legal structure and all of that within the within the, the private membership association and, and any, anything else that comes along with that. The next phase will be to start to build home sites and to and to really develop out and, and and, and bring the training to its full potential. The home sites you know, might be rental cabins for people that that, that wanna just visit for a weekend to, to take a training class mm-hmm. It might be you know, smaller, smaller homes or, or that kind of thing that, that we can build as, as rental properties that somebody can come and rent for, for, you know, on a month to month basis or an annual basis where they don’t have to put out all the capital to build a full home. Right. And and, and, and, and maybe, you know, exchange rent for for, for, you know, labor some labor on a farm or Yeah. You know, something of that nature. So you know, the, those, those are some of the ideas that we have in order to make it more affordable because as Sean says, we’re, you know, we’re definitely interested in, in helping as many people as we can.
Lynette Zang (27:14):
So do you have the, where are you at right now? Do you have the land or you’ve just selected, have you acquired the land or?
Lynette Zang (27:24):
Do you still need to do that?
David Fabry (27:26):
We, we do have the land under contract and and we hope to close on that at the end of this month. And and then, you know, just, just start working through our, through our plan. We’ve got a, we’ve got a pretty pretty, pretty good plan for at least the the next a couple of years.
Lynette Zang (27:41):
Oh, excellent. So you’re, you’re pretty far along on this process. That’s really good. Yeah. when do you think you might have like the first structure built?
David Fabry (27:56):
So the property, we we have under contract already has a number of structures. It has some homes and, and Excellent. It’s a, it’s a work in cattle ranch. Oh yeah. So it’s a it’s, it’s, it’s pretty ready to go. It’s kind of a turnkey. And then we hope within the next, in the first few months to, to, to have some ability to, to start to host some training classes and then, you know, the, the, the, the, the processes then to build out some infrastructure and build some, you know, some places for people to stay when they come for training and that kind of thing. And then definitely to build out the food se food security as one of the one of the primary goals.
Lynette Zang (28:33):
Oh, absolutely. <Laugh>. I mean, food is the biggest issue for people as we go through these transitions. So it’s pretty critical. But I, I’m curious because you mentioned the PMA mm-hmm. <Affirmative>, what’s the difference between a PMA and an HOA, which I don’t personally care for…
David Fabry (28:54):
Exactly. Yeah. A PMA is a, is a private membership association, and it’s a think of it as a like a country club, right? So you can go in and join a country club that gives you rights to, to, to use the property you know, under, under whatever rules there are in the, in the PMA. And, and it takes the it takes the, the, the, the, the regulatory oversight out of the picture because it’s, it’s a a, it’s a, it’s a voluntary contract between individuals. So it’s a, it’s a private it takes you out of the public realm into the private realm. And, and that allows you certain it allows you to exercise different, different set of rights that, that you have. We’re, we’re still learning about it, so I’m no, I’m no expert on it, but.
Lynette Zang (29:55):
And you’re gonna become an expert on it.
David Fabry (29:56):
Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because
Lynette Zang (29:58):
I mean when I had the condo before I bought this property, so I could grow, you know, in the middle of the city. Yeah. You know, I was in a little condo and oh my God, I had a few little pots out that I was growing food and they were always dinging me 50 bucks. It was so annoying. So, and I think a lot of people have had a similar kind of experience. So that would, you had not had that with the, with the PMA? I mean, who writes the rules and how easy are they to change?
Sean Connelly (30:30):
Well, so the the PMA, you know, the whole intention with the PMA is the ranching, the food production, the the organization that does the training is, is more for the PMA. The home. So probably on a little separate, you know, to where when you’re living somewhere and you’ve got yourself a little acre or so on the property the, the probably a little less governing, you know, type body there, more of, you know, but order to purchase, I’ll give you an example. There’s a, there’s a place in Western, southwestern Arizona where they built a private lake and they wanted, just, a bunch of friends wanted to be able to buy the lake together. And they, instead of an HOA, they put together something like a PMA to where they didn’t have to make a public offering for all these these properties once they subdivided it.
Sean Connelly (31:14):
Oh. And that was the, that’s where it allows the, that to be able to happen where they did that. And then within that they have the organization had a, a boat launched with a fuel place where they could buy bulk fuel together. And that was all owned by the PMA. And so the PMA really isn’t organized, you know, how people set up their houses. It doesn’t organize, you know, the rules on that were kind of really loose. Once the house was sold, just the PMA was the, the ultimate owner of the property. The overall lake and the overall, you know boathouse that allowed, you know, the fueling. So it allows that, that organization to be able to run the community assets but not, you know, necessarily the people’s houses. And that’s cause we, I’ve never been a big HOA fan. And, and a way we hope to shut out the structures. I mean, if you wanna paint your house pink, I mean that’s kind of up to you. I mean, you know, it’s however you wanna do. But you know, what we we’re more concerned about is, you know, who’s producing the ranch, how the permaculture is being run, how the food’s being produced, and then how people can acquire that food. Cause if you’re only there, if you’ve got one property out there and you’re only there once a month, or if you’re not there if you’re only an investor in the PMA itself and you just want the food security, cuz you already have yourself a bug outhouse somewhere else, or, or you have a cabin nearby that you wanna just get an actual food source, the PMA allows you like a co-op to be able to purchase directly and not have to go through, you know, hey, this doesn’t have to be through all these regulatory issues in order to get yourself a stake or in order just get yourself, you know, you know, the buy a side of beef or whatever, you know, we’re, we’re operating at the time. That’s the intention is to basically reduce the regulatory requirements, not make it like an HOA which encumber people
Lynette Zang (33:01):
<Laugh>. Oh yeah. Okay. And I think that’s an important point that a lot of people are gonna want to see. Because if you’re going to something, you know, like what you’re talking about, you really wanna be as self-sufficient and independent inside of a community as possible. So I think this is a great concept. When are you guys going to be ready to actually talk about people that are interested in supporting and becoming part of this?
David Fabry (33:36):
Sean, you wanna answer that one or?
Sean Connelly (33:37):
Well, I mean, we’re, we’re ready. Yeah, I was gonna say we’re ready right now. I mean we are you know, if somebody wants to contact us, we can, you know, have a conversation and, and you know, do an initial just conversation vetting, get to know them a little bit and then we can send them the more specific documents about what we’re what we’re putting together right now about the actual current ranch and then if they’re interested in other ones in different locations as well we can talk to them about helping put one together in the future in closer to where they are. Or so if it was somebody on the East coast or somewhere central United States that had, you know, the concept in the community that we can talk to ’em right now as far as, you know, anybody in the West Coast or anybody who would be interested in Arizona and investing in Arizona. We, we are, we’re set up to, to start discussing that in person with people if they wanna reach out to us and connect with us. So we’re ready right now.
Lynette Zang (34:27):
That’s, you know, I think that’s an important thing for people to know because as you guys know, the time to do it is now, you know, and the longer it takes, I mean, it’s, it’s a challenge. It’s really, I I feel like we’re in a race against time right now, especially since we’re now in 2023, which promised to be quite an interesting year.
David Fabry (34:50):
Yes, you know, and and to that point, Lynette, you’re, you’re exactly right. I, I actually think we’ve been given more time than I expected
Lynette Zang (34:59):
Yes I would agree
David Fabry (34:59):
I think it’s long overdue.
Lynette Zang (35:02):
You know, I learned, you know, the older you get, the more you learn this, all in due time. Just not necessarily mine
David Fabry (35:11):
<Laugh> <laugh>
Lynette Zang (35:12):
Because everybody wants it now, but, you know, everything that’s worthwhile actually takes time and effort and thought and community to really put together. What else should we know about resiliency Ranch? I mean, I think it’s phenomenal. Probably if I had found this when I decided that I needed my bug out location, I might have looked at this instead, but it would’ve been a lot less money <laugh> cause I wouldn’t have had to have prepared for as many people as I have. But that’s okay. So this is a great opportunity because you’re right there, there is a huge need for something like this. What else do people need to know about what you guys are doing?
Sean Connelly (36:02):
Well, I think, you know, one of the biggest things they just need to know is that this is, you know, this is community based and community minded on the sense of we want people to enjoy this as a legacy project. Yes. And not look at as, you know, oh my gosh, you know, I need to, I need to hop up and, you know, buy something randomly because I think, you know, I’m, you know, the world’s gonna fall apart tomorrow. I mean, which is entirely potential. I mean, we’re all looking at that, you know, it’s, it, it could easily do that. I mean, like I said, we’ve, we’ve talked about it before where I believe, you know, with, with the world right now we’re in a, a world of transition, a fourth turning world War three type environment where it’s already Yes they are. You know, it’s already going on. Subsurface it just hasn’t boiled up to the volcanic explosion that we’re waiting on happening. And so we’re, we’re there and people need to act. But they need to think, hey, this is, this is part of a community to help one another and help each other. And so that’s one of our major things. We’re looking at this as a perma permaculture legacy building type operation where hey, you know, we’re gonna bring in people and experts who can, you know, understand, I know some of the ranching aspects, but I we’re gonna bring in more farming aspects who can do help us as a permaculture where the crops are mutually supporting one another. And that’s what we want to do with the people as well as where they’re mutually supporting one another. Where this isn’t, this isn’t a, a place where you’re gonna go out and hide down and, and lock your doors and, and disappear from the world. What you’re gonna be is able to live an enjoyable life as things either progressively, I mean, what, well, it’s just, even if a crime just drastically increases somewhere here like Phoenix and people are just like, I’m just done. I wanna live with my family somewhere, you know, where I can still get to the major cities, but I can enjoy, you know, that, that, that aspect. Cause we’re right now, our property that we’re looking at is two hours from the Phoenix Airport. I mean, it’s an amazing opportunity for you to just, you know, be able to get up there spend that time. And if you have to work from town or nowadays a lot of people are able to work from home four days a week and Right. You know, it, it makes a, a, an amazing opportunity. So I think that’s the biggest thing is people need to look at this is, you know, we’re, we’re restoring our grandparents’ skills and our great grandparents’ skills to our families.
Sean Connelly (38:15):
And it’s not, you know, this isn’t a, you know, a a novel concept in the sense of communities helped each other build Right. And grow for centuries. And we just want to get back to that. And that’s, that’s our biggest concept of resilience and ranches and then a network of community ranches and resiliency ranches that can help support. Because, you know, one area might have massive timber production, another one might have, you know, natural coal in the ground, or they might have be able to, you know, produce more hay. I mean, each, each community has a different territorial terrain aspect, skill set, and then they help each other. That helps us all be able to to grow and thrive together.
Lynette Zang (38:55):
Yeah. Well I can tell you that personally because Sean and I have been working on, you know, making sure that my contingency plan from getting to Phoenix to my bug out location, which I also use is vacation and just nice place to go and get away from everybody else truthfully. But extraordinarily I know Sean is extraordinarily specific and thoughtful and that he thinks things all the way through. David, you’re kind of new to me, but I would imagine that having Sean on your team even, how do you get people from the Phoenix airport mm-hmm. To, to resiliency ranch all the different ways that you can get there might be, you know, well thought through and, and I invited you guys on here because I know Sean and I know his work and I know how thorough and thoughtful he is that I, I just feel that there’s a lot of validity to what you’re doing. And the time is very auspicious.
David Fabry (40:02):
Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>
Lynette Zang (40:02):
Right?
David Fabry (40:03):
Yeah. Exactly. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, and, and you know, and, and you know, thank, thank you again for inviting us on to, to, to to share about Resiliency Ranch cause we think this is a concept that that that is crucial for our time. Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative> and you know, and that’s, and that’s why we have the vision to, to do these across the nation, having a you know, a a a safe haven community railroad if you want to if you wish to, to, you know to, to, to support people all through this for this, this wonderful country that Yeah. You know, is maybe not in the great shape right now.
Lynette Zang (40:42):
Well the, the country is wonderful and I mean, I definitely think of myself as an American, and I’m very proud to be an American. It’s that what I see in the financial system and in the other parts <laugh> that it’s the people, right? The country is great. We’ve been, we’ve been divide and conquer where they’ve taken really community away. Right? I mean, how many people out there, how many of you guys actually know your neighbors and your neighborhood? You know, a lot of people, they’ve lived in the same place for 20 years and they don’t know their next door neighbor. So I, I don’t think that is, I, I think that probably was more by design, but we’ve become very, very insulated. And this last bout that we’ve had since 2020 has insulated us and polarized us even more. But this sounds like a concept where you’re just undoing all of that garbage and bringing everybody together and you’re ready now, right?
David Fabry (41:52):
That’s right. That’s correct. Yep.
Lynette Zang (41:55):
So all of the contact information and a lot more information is below and also on the blog. And is there a packet that they can send to or that would be made available to people so they can take a deeper look at what you are doing in Northern Arizona?
David Fabry (42:17):
So they can send an email to, so our, our company is Campfire Properties. They can send an email to resilient@campfireproperties.com And I’ll be able to reach out to them with with some additional information.
Lynette Zang (42:33):
Excellent. Is there anything else that you wanna bring up and talk about today for our viewers?
David Fabry (42:42):
No, just that that, you know, now, now is the time to get started. I mean, it’s a there’s, you know, you, you never know what’s going to happen tomorrow. And having, having that community of supportive everything, the skillful people around you is it’s, it’s, it’s a greater wealth than you can than you can build almost, almost any other way.
Lynette Zang (43:08):
I, I really could not agree with you more. I absolutely community of, of all the mantra pieces, I’ve often said this, it’s arguably the single most important piece because one person can’t do it all. It’s just not possible, you know? But coming together in community of like-minded people, how many times do we hear? Well, I’m so glad to talk to you because if I talk to my family, they think I’m crazy, right? Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>, but I think a lot of people in the family would go, yeah, how about a nice vacation house? That’s not such a bad thing. But then they can learn more and more and more. Well, this has been wonderful. Thank you so much for coming. I wanna come and see what you’re doing.
Lynette Zang (43:58):
Do I have an invitation?
David Fabry (43:59):
You’re welcome. Absolutely
Sean Connelly (44:00):
Absolutely. Yeah,
Lynette Zang (44:00):
Absolutely. All right, well maybe we’ll do, maybe we’ll do some filming up there?
David Fabry (44:05):
Yeah, that’d be great.
Lynette Zang (44:06):
We can probably figure that out so people can actually see firsthand.
Sean Connelly (44:14):
Sounds great.
Lynette Zang (44:15):
So for all of you out there that, that have been wondering, what am I gonna do? Where is there a community? And I know there’s a lot of you, because a lot of people ask me that this is a phenomenal start and you have all of the information below also on our blog. So get a hold of Sean, of David and, and do it today, because personally I’d always rather be two weeks, 10 years, I don’t care. I wanna be early because being one second too late. You’ve lost all of your choices. And until next we meet, please be safe out there. Bye-Bye.
SOURCES:
NewHome (campfireproperties.com)
RR Kirkland Presentation (vimeo.com)
resilient@campfireproperties.com
