The second person who I’ve ever interviewed on ‘Coffee with Lynette’, David DuByne. I’ve invited him back onto the show again to discuss some topics that we need to be aware of in terms of surviving and thriving the ‘Great Reset’. There are some cycles in history that he’s discovered that affect food production, and with his research he understands the nature of how global warming works.
Hopefully this will help my viewers understand what’s coming, and how to prepare for it. What kind of food should we be storing, what type of supplies we should be investing in, and more.
PART 1: The Problem with Supply Chains & the Food Crisis ➡️ https://youtu.be/RXCa5isiduE
TRANSCRIPT FROM VIDEO:
Lynette Zang:
*Cause you were actually as you know, the second person that I ever had on my coffee with Lynette show years, years, and years ago. But for those that are not familiar with your work and everybody needs to be familiar with your work, it’s that important, but can you tell us why you do what you do?
David DuByne:
I was buying coffee in Myanmar. And this is pre COVID when things were good. Airbnb were flying. It was so easy to move around the planet at that point. Does everybody remember that? Or do we all have a goldfish memory of how the world was before the way it’s been tweaked and pushed artificially to where we we are now? Yeah, because yeah, there was so much opportunity in Asia and you know, having a chance to buy coffee down in Burma, which is the older name for Myanmar. Now I had a chance to get up to the higher altitude or you know, 3000 foot plus a 1000 meter elevation for the Arabica beans up in Pyin Oo Lwin in different areas around that. And it didn’t take very long until they were telling us, yeah, you know, if you’re gonna forward by your area on the, the farm out here, we’re gonna have to over plant for you. And we’re like, why would you over plant an acre where we want to get acreage? cause they can determine the tonnage off the acreage. And you have to, that was the thing about Myanmar. You know, it’s not like you just go in and buy it. You have to really get solidified with them, buy the land or not the land, but the investment of the trees to put out there, the coffee plants to put out all on to the land. And then from that point, the workers will take it over and all that production coming off that acreage is yours. And then that’s where the contract goes with it. But the discussion came quickly about really cold up there and a lot of bean density differences because the water was freezing inside the bean and leaving these little hollow pockets and the, the damage to the plants. And this is why they were over planting because the cold damage and I was like, Bing, Bing, Bing what? I only ever knew global warming. So then, you know, a few subsequent trips and some talks. Yeah. It seemed to be a cycle that their grandparents or great grandparents in the 1880s, 1870s had experienced the same thing when the British were trying to of commercialized coffee when they were taking over Burma, along with the tea. So that sent me on a quest and I quickly ran into John Casey’s work, reach out to him. And then there was a bevy of others. You know, like you say, the first, there was a very, very small amount of people talking about grand solar, minimum and solar activity, affecting food production on cyclical activity. And then to forecast that out quickly into the future of, okay, here’s the onset, here’s how governments are gonna respond. And this is how the populous is gonna be controlled moving forward. So that’s why I do what I do because there’s nothing else worth living for or discussing at this point, except for where the world’s moving and how your place in it is going to affect humanity moving forward. And I prefer to be on the living end of, as we progress through the cycle. Knowing the changes and being with like-minded people who also wanna work together through these changes.
Lynette Zang:
Yeah. That’s, that’s the community piece of this, but you know, let’s talk about that for a minute because what most people do here is global warming, but all your data points to the grand solar minimum and even the mini ice age. So how do you reconcile the difference? I mean, where, where do they come together or not?
David DuByne:
Oh I absolutely agree. There’s phases of global warming. Absolutely there are, but there’s also phases of cooling within the climate records that Greenland Ice Survey Project, the GISP is the gold standard for temperature models across the planet of where, you know, the temperatures have gone over the last, you know, solid 2000 years of very good data and there’s warming cycles. There’s cooling cycles, there’s warming cycles and cooling cycles, but they are finding and David Dealy, who reached out to me just a few weeks ago, we, David and I had done an interview. Ah, it had to been four years and he was saying to me, David the Meltwater pulse is going to be going under the Arctic ocean and having more fresh water content that’s gonna freeze the Arctic right around 2022 is when that next pulse is gonna start pushing under the Arctic. And it shall last for nine years. This in turn is gonna freeze the Arctic faster because it’s gonna be fresher water, less saline. And it’s like, it’s a cycle too, it’s a nine year cycle. He’s like, we’re gonna enter this. We already know the duration of it. We already know the onset and he’s like, look out, you’re talking about solar activity, cooling temperatures and moving jet streams and cloud cells. But I am telling you unequivocally that cold water pulse is going under the Arctic and a set in motion, serious cooling around 2022. And then the next nine years until 2030-2031. And these cycles are literally baked in stone, literally in the fossil record too, in the geologic record, it goes up and down continuously. And for Science to say, it’s settled and it only warms. That’s just ridiculous talk right there. It cools too. How do we ever go into ice? How do we come out of ice ages? Is it just, there are no SUVs coming out of ice age. It’s something else that triggers that, solar activity.
Lynette Zang:
So is it because the, all we hear about is that these ice caps are melting. They’re not melting? and we’re here. We are in 2022, did his prediction come true?
David DuByne:
They were melting not to the epic lows, that there would be an ice free Arctic that Al Gore and Peter Wadhams and several others had claimed since what, 2006, it’ll be an ice free Arctic. It’s never gone that low, not even remotely close. And now we’re turning the corner onto subsequent more ice. And you can start to see if you look at National Ice Data Center and the NSIDC National Survey Ice Data Center from the U.S. And you’ll start to see that it hit the bottom and it’s starting to ping up. So is Antarctica. And you can go through Polar Portal and the Danish Meteorological Institute, the Finnish Meteorological Institute has snow data above ground for just Northern hemisphere, snow totals, as well as ice data. And they’re all showing the same thing. It pinged it sort of flattened and it starting to increase now. So again, if you were to look back in a long enough timeframe, mm-hmm, <affirmative>, this is nothing more than a cycle. It’s really in the whole record of things. It is the norm to go up and down above the baseline, same with economic activity. It never is flat or always increasing. There’s always something that goes in above and below.
Lynette Zang:
Well, you know, it’s really interesting because it seems like across the planet, there’s so many different changes. Like the NASA is telling us that climate change is making droughts more frequent, severe, and you know, and expansive. So what, what are we to believe or how can we prepare for it? And this is different parts of the world are gonna react in different ways to the climate change, whether it’s the ice age or warming, or what’s really going on and what should we do? What have you chosen to do for yourself? That’s actually a better question.
David DuByne:
Well, I’ve chosen to look back in history and see this area in East Tennessee through the last 10,000 years has been continuously habited or inhabited. There’s a place called Ice House Bottom has some of the oldest and habited known civilization remains of structures and what we consider thus civilization from crops to tools, etcetera, these, all these check, the boxes, things that say it’s a civilization that was here continuously. And I look at those type of data points saying, all right, how many, not only major 4,000 year coolings did they survive and still lived through here, but the caves around here are littered. I mean, littered with survivors from the last impacts. Oh wow. So to look at, at the previous records of, okay, the Carolina Bay is when that ice came down at the younger dryas impact that actually flew down this way and impacted again and whatever they witnessed in the skies, they ran to the caves and there’s quite a few famous caves you can just go rolling through down here. And they were continuously inhabited for several hundred years, but it seems like after whatever the cataclysm, they all emerge and you know, there’s some structural points along these rivers here that were the survivors from the last impact or off the younger dryas era? And for those of you who don’t know what that is, there’s a boundary in our, in our record of it’s a flower, the younger dryer and the older dryer. So the younger dryas era, it seems that there was some sort of commentary impact on an ice sheet and Randall Carlson and Graham Hancock did an enormous amount of research. I’m just regurgitating what they said, but it matches its timelines, excuse me, with the emergence of people and the disappearance of people here in east Tennessee. Hmm. So when you see that the same timelines of bottleneck of humanity or population density, and then emerging out of the caves again, to restart in the same exact areas. I mean, this is a win-win place, there’s an enormous amount of water here. You get, you know, three months of winter and it’s not that brutally cold where you can still indoor plants and continuous habitation and just gigantic societies arose outta here. And the trade routes have always been across the mountains from North Carolina over to here and back and down to Georgia. So there was a trading network here long before you know, what is explorers came? I mean, they were trading with themselves for thousands of years here and the sacred areas and the villages and the towns. I mean, there was a place called Chota and the Cherokees that had 25,000 people living in it, 25,000. That’s just not too far from here, but the organization to put that together and to have a city of 25,000 people on the end of a trade route off of the the old turnpike here, I mean, you gotta look back in history to see who survived, what survived, and then could you survive it on the natural end. What the politics are and what the governments are gonna throw at us is something very different. So you gotta look at it from the two different aspects, you know nature and government.
Lynette Zang:
Well, let’s talk about the government then. What do you think, why are they pushing that agenda? And what is their ulterior motive?
David DuByne:
It’s just my opinion here, but right. Everything we’ve seen with global warming is to not spook the populus. Now, if I were to say to you, by the way there’s this cycle coming in, that it’s a solar cycle, and it’s gonna affect the ability for us to grow food on the planet. And a billion of you are gonna starve to death at least, and there’s gonna be societal breakdown, and we’re gonna have to restructure the economy because asset values are gonna shift and change because the mechanisms for work and value and transport and all these things that we give the base of our economy to are no longer gonna exist, because things are gonna go into such chaos for just a small amount of time, just a small amount of time, 15 years, years, but keep going to work and paying your taxes and invest in your IRA. And that’ll be good. And just, hopefully you’ll live through it. But if you give the excuse of, oh, by the way, if you stop driving your SUV, if you plug in the old CFL bulb, but if you just pay your carbon taxes, we can get through this together. That’s hugely different. So if you were a government gonna front run, what we were gonna see in the climate, and literally everybody’s seeing the changes, you’re talking about Lynette from the droughts to the floods, to the severe everything, and the extremes, the delayed planting, the shortened growth seasons. Like it’s visible to everybody on the planet now. Everybody, but, you know, it’s not so scary because there was already already made excuse of global warming for it compared to solar cycles that are, you know, knock back civilization in our, in our society’s, you know, a large percentage of the population is gonna get caught off guard and not ready for this. And then they’re gonna have a couple choice. They’re gonna go to the camps. They’re gonna rely on government assistance or get hurled into cities to survive, or they’re not. And then there’ll be the other segment of population who did get ready and they’re taking care of themselves and getting more adjusted in communities and things as this unfolds over the next five to 10 years.
David DuByne:
a lot of times in America, you know how lucky, you know, people are to have social nets that don’t exist in any other countries?
Lynette Zang:
Yep. We don’t realize.
David DuByne:
Existing on social, on social help here. You won the lottery compared to places, name your country.
David DuByne:
It’s gonna be shocking for people. So how do you come around that? Well, there’s gonna be a lot of people who are gonna want your stuff. Just understand that. But since you were talking about solutions here, you know, I have I have a couple acres. We’re gonna put a fence in. We wanna keep our dogs in here, around the house. So that way they can’t run away because I was reading these stories in the depression where people would catch animals and eat ’em or they’d steal your dog and then go take it as their own guard dog. So, you know, keeping it in the fence. Mm-Hmm couple acres. We got our orchard here. And since it’s two by three on the on the metal galvanized weaving on that. And we also got it at green. So there’s a coating on the outside of that galvanized fence and it’ll blend in pretty well with the it’s all, it’s pretty much green all the time. Even in winter time, the grass is still green-ish so that green fence, and we’re gonna line it food mm-hmm , we’re gonna grow hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of feet of all the fence with vine type growing different vegetables from peas to beans, Malibu, spinach the wine vines and others that we have a list of off of food forests, you know, thinking about food forests.
David DuByne:
but even though I live way out here, I still am coming to the recollection that, you know, people are gonna find their way, way out here and you know, what are you gonna do to protect it? Again, coming to the mind frame of learning from history and about what people, how to do to protect their food. Not in a selfish sense, but Hey, they’re going to, and believe me, I’m not gonna go too deep into this, but this is a few ex-military people who I’ve talked with that did some time over in in Africa and Somalia were saying almost word for word, the exact same thing, which was so shocking if they get into your house, your chance of living through that is almost zero. Yeah. Like when they come into your house, your chance of living are almost none. Yeah. So they’re gonna, they’re gonna swoop in and you might think, okay, come in and take what you want. You’re a direct threat because you could chase them down the road and start shooting from the back of your house.
David DuByne:
You, you have no chance if they get in your house. Very little chance of surviving that. So you either stand it at, you stand at the front door or wherever you stand and you put up a fight, they’re gonna go somewhere else. Cause they’re also like, eh, that’s too much trouble kept hearing the same stories again and again about just things I don’t really want to go too deep into thought with, but you’re gonna have to start changing your mind on how much you’re willing to protect. So you’re gonna have a choice a or B at that point of A or B.
Lynette Zang:
A or B well, you know,
David DuByne:
Again, you die or you stand and you fight and you try to live through it. And that’s really such a bizarre thing to say. It even in the states.
Lynette Zang:
Isn’t it?
David DuByne:
Yeah. Just, it’s really hard to get your head around that. I really still, even me trying to just rationalize that thing there, those to be made in the future. Hopefully not for me.
Lynette Zang:
Part of that is, is the importance of community though, because if you’re just one person or even if a small family or a family, you know, you’re kind of limited, but, and you need a bunch of different skill sets too. So I think it’s easier if you can come together in a community to help protect each other, to help create food for each other to have the ability to jury rig equipment that fails that you can’t get the parts anymore. I mean, you know, I can’t say ha. I think that of, of the whole pieces of the mantra, Community could be arguably the most important piece because you can’t, you can easily be overwhelmed by a Community of bad people coming in to take what you have. But if you have a Community around you, that’s a whole lot more defensible don’t you think?
David DuByne:
It is and we’ve already met with our neighbors a few times getting on and syncing our radio channels. Yeah. So most of the, most of the hunters out here are using Marine radio. But a lot of times, if you know what you can do with the HAM radio, you can sync up with the Marine radio band channels. So that way you got two different channels, it’s the same channel, but it’s the same frequency is just on two different devices. Mm-Hmm . So if you can get with your community members and the GFS models aren’t gonna work, or those with a family FSN or which you can get that yellow one that’s around the Motorola thing. That’s around the job sites. Yeah. You could use that, but everybody’s gotta have ’em cause they’re so limited on the channel range. But like if everybody knows what channel you’re gonna be on a Marine radio and also with HAM and you can, you know, overload those. That’s where we’ve been talking about, cause we’re gonna, you know, have a good square mile periphery here. Of everybody on the same thing. And we’ve agreed as soon as we start to see some people out here, we’re gonna leave ’em on 24/7 and have ’em in the wall on charge on all the time. So if anybody gets into a problem, you can scream on the radio and all shared all of our phone numbers with everybody. And if there’s something through the news or they see something down on their property, be able to be able to tell all of us we’ve been cutting trails, you know, around, through to the different properties to the forest. Like if you don’t live, you’re never gonna find those things cause we blaze through and then you dog leg, right. And you go down the Creek bed and you’re not gonna find the other or come out there. So we have different ways run to a person’s property unseen. Yeah. You could Trek across the field, but if somebody’s out there on the periphery looking for it, they’re gonna see you snip you out maybe. But if you have a way to get through the forest to the next person’s property line and also pop out in the middle of a field somewhere unknown, you’re like, whoa, where’s that guy. Where did you come from? You know? And boom, you’re out there in the middle of the field and you see these people coming over, like, you know, people working together to get these things done is happening now. It’s not going to happen. It’s in process and flow. And if you’re not in the flow, please start the flow with others. Be the initiator because myself and my neighbor were, he’d been listening and talking, you know my work for a while. And then he is like, I can’t believe all these things. And then he said, this last year, this food thing, da, da. So he is like, yeah, I’ll get the neighbor. So then we started and we got the first group of ’em and then they’re all like, okay, you guys are onto something here. Let’s just make sure this is wider. So then we went the next step out from our own excellent properties, connecting to the next sets of neighbors out and be the initiator cause people are soaked and really willing to get on board now cause everybody sees there’s something wrong, right? Something different, something just doesn’t sit right anymore. Now, Lynette, I don’t know around, you know, around your area are people just starting to sense that something’s off at the moment and they’re starting and to look for different answers and solutions?
Lynette Zang:
Yes. But they’re more attuned to it in my bug out house area. That’s definitely more of and well, my whole property is off grid, but the people that live up there have more of this kind of mindset. So that actually works really well. I can’t say that my people, I think that my neighbors in my neighborhood down here in Phoenix, I think everybody can tell something is off, but it’s still so hard for them to imagine as awful as things are really most likely to get and you know what, maybe we’re all wrong. Let’s hope that we are all wrong about this. You still need all of those things to have a very reasonable lifestyle right? And we have to reconnect with our neighbors because so much of the work really since the seventies has been to disintegrate the community because divided is much easier to conquer. But once we all come together, like you were talking to your neighbors and I talk to people, all of a sudden the light bulb goes off and then we can come together and have a lot more power than we can as one individual person.
David DuByne:
Once you do the food too, once, you know, you can grow your food, you realize that through the entire summer for four or five months, at least here where we live in east Tennessee, maybe six, if you get on it early and you cover a few of your crops with some row cover or you know, small plastic, greenhouse, whatever, you don’t need to buy food for up to six months of the year for any vegetables at all. And if you get meats, you know, like I did, we’re set, right. We don’t need to buy a thing cause we’re growing it all. And we already had meat in the freezer. Although I will say caveat caveat, I’ve been told by multiple people that the power’s gonna get knocked out on purpose. Maybe not the whole entire country in one day at the same time, but there’s gonna, it might get hit in the Northeast and you go down for two weeks. They’re just trying to turn off your freezer. So you lose your stores, right? Your supplies cause once you lose, ’em you’re really not gonna have a chance to get ’em back. Cause prices are getting so absurd for the meats and things. How are you gonna protect your refrigerated in frozen goods?
Lynette Zang:
Well.
David DuByne:
For weeks plural, cause that’s the plan to, I really believe it’s a global holodomor and you have to go back through the history and Ukraine. Speaking of Ukraine when the Bolsheviks used food as a weapon and starve 12 million people to death at that point by withholding all food and the tools and the seeds so people starve to death. So I think we’re on a global holodomor going on at the moment. Would you not wipe out somebody’s stored foods? If you could just turn off the power know knowing they would lose all their frozen stores that they had packed in there.
Lynette Zang:
Well, I’ll tell you number one, rabbits are really good to have because they procreate and they can give you fresh meat constantly. So I have rabbits now and growing the other things. And the other thing that I did at which I’m so grateful for is I hired I hired Curtis and Sean who have been on my show and they are like ex-military guys and they’re put together a whole contingency plan. So we’ve been working on that. I’m gonna have ’em back on, but they were talking about ways that you can create kind of like a root cellar, right? And you get a little bit of snow and I don’t know how to do this yet. They’ve just talked to me about it so that if for some reason you do lose your power, you would have your food that you needed refrigerated stored there. And it wouldn’t matter. Or like I put in a whole power grid so they can take the power grid down, but it’s not gonna, it’ll impact me down here in Phoenix because I wasn’t really, even though I tried, I was not successful in taking my house off-grid as far as power is concerned. But up in my bug out location and I think you need to all be prepared for that. It’s something, you know, and you can do it with different sizes. You know, it, it doesn’t all have to cost a gazillion dollars, but the sooner you start, the cheaper it’s gonna be. And because of all the growing we’ve been doing, we definitely can save back seeds and we like to share. So we have, we’re very happy to create those communities and share what we can and what we have. And I think that’s a great message for everybody. So is there anything else that you wanna say that we haven’t covered today? I mean there’s so much there really is so much.
David DuByne: (01:08:10)
Seed sharing clubs. That’s a great idea. If you know any others who have seeds in your regional area, mm-hmm because that’s the way you’re gonna be able to continue to grow the food is the seeds and saving those, just get in the habit of saving seeds from your pumpkin. When you cut it open to use it for a soup or something, learn how to dehydrate it. So it turns into a usable seed, which is a lot of skills. We’re gonna have to think about mm-hmm Jack of all trades is the way you want to go. Now to be too specialized in a certain thing now that’s great. If you could repair, you know, and have some sort of, you know, forge or whatever. So then you can bend metal to be able to repair a rim on a tire for a farm machine. That’s awesome. But to be able to help almost, everything’s gonna be more of a value, I think, than a very laser niche type of person. I think Jack of all trades, like all the Amish are Jack of all trades. They know how to do everything mm-hmm so I think that’s the way to go and you know, mentally getting it together, but saving your food, storing your food is gonna be a big one, too.
Lynette Zang:
Huge. Food, Water, Energy, Security, Barterability, Wealth Preservation, Community, Shelter. It helps you stay, you know, sound in your mind and you don’t have to freak out because mental health, I mean, we’ve just experienced where a lot of people have had a lot of mental health issues because they feel so alone. So I would like to say that you’re not alone. You’re not alone. I’m not, we are not alone. You just have to find people that are just find people and make friends. Right?
David DuByne:
Yeah. And look for a wild forging course. There was one I just missed.
Lynette Zang:
Oh, that’s great.
David DuByne:
The guy who ran the course is a friend of mine who comes up and helps me a little on here is gonna come by our place here. So, you know, get into the wild forging clubs cause then as soon as soon as you’re in one wild forging club, that is people of like minded that are actually going off and beyond of what they’re growing to find, what grows wild on the forest to be able to sustain you.
Lynette Zang:
Well, you know, there are actually.
David DuByne:
A mind frame is hugely different.
Lynette Zang:
Can I also say that there are actually foraging clubs in the city because people don’t realize how much food there. Dandelion, dandelion greens are extremely nutritious and they’re considered a weed. Right? I mean, purslane, there’s actually quite a bit of food that people just kind of ignore because we taught that they were just weeds when in reality, they are extremely nutritious and actually even delicious. So I think, yeah, joining a foraging club is a great idea out in the country, but, but you know, I’m, I have serious concern about city dwellers.
David DuByne:
You can only eat so much Clover and I mean Clover’s in season and we have been trying to make a habit of foraging, at least one vegetable to have either stir fry or even small amounts of it. Like when those purple dead nettles came out to use the flowers on top of salads, along with the dandelion flowers mm-hmm and whatever we can find us even getting your mind frame of looking for one thing per day like when we finish here.
Lynette Zang:
That’s a good idea.
David DuByne:
Finish setting more posts from my fence out here. I am gonna go cause I know there’s a huge amount of Clover back there getting real tall right now, too. I want to go get a bunch of that for a salad tonight. It might even get enough we could stir fry, you know, a nice plate of it. So this is the time of the year in the springtime right now, tons weigh a lot of stuff, right? Purple lady slippers are out there on our land, really rare plant, but I can’t believe it’s like 15 of ’em grown as that means it’s really pristine undisturbed areas. It was all kind of medicinals as well. So don’t think just edibles think medicinals, when you’re thinking about wild foraging,
Lynette Zang:
This is really fabulous advice. And this has been such a great conversation. I wish we had more time. Thank you so much for coming on. And one of these days maybe we will meet in person. I’d love that.
David DuByne:
I know we will. I got the feeling, you know like, like mines are getting attracted together as magnetic fields are pulling to each other.
Lynette Zang:
Absolutely. And I think everybody that’s watching this, all of the links to David’s YouTube and everything, and you need to be paying attention to this very, very brilliant man, because it will help you be prepared and we all need to be prepared for what is already happening. It’s it’s not, what’s coming, it’s here people it’s here. And by the time those that aren’t paying attention, realize it. I hate to say this, but it will be too late for them,
David DuByne:
But we all can do it. That’s the whole thing. Everybody can do it. And that’s the greatest thing that everybody can do. Grow, store, dry, everything.
Lynette Zang:
Yeah. And fertilizer, get yourself a 10 gallon fish tank and throw some fish in there. Cheap gold fish or whatever. And you can create fertilizer. I mean, probably need a little more than a 10 gallon thing, but it’s a start
David DuByne:
Any yield is a, a good yield.
Lynette Zang:
very good point. Thank you so much for being here today.
David DuByne:
Alright Lynette, thanks so much.
Lynette Zang:
We will see you again soon. I hope. And to all of our viewers, please be safe out there till next we meet bye-bye
David DuByne:
Bye for now.
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