“You want to repair your roof in the sunshine, you don’t want to repair your roof during a rainstorm, let alone a hurricane”. What are our security experts predicting for the remainder of this year and going into 2023?
📖 CHAPTERS:
0:00 Overview
1:44 Intro to Security Experts Sean and Curtis
5:50 Updates on Contingency Planning & Crisis Management
7:46 Fire Mitigation
14:04 Combat Simulation Training
21:20 The Storming Phase
38:28 Using Gold to Barter for Security During the Iraq War
44:36 High Inflation Crisis
49:31 Our Options Are Shrinking
54:51 When Is It Time to Get Prepared?
58:05 Fifth-Generational Warfare
1:04:18 Outro
TRANSCRIPT FROM VIDEO:
Sean Connelly:
We’re just not a society we used to be in the sense of, we don’t have the neighbors that we’re friends with. We don’t have the communities we used to be able to count on. So if things start to fall apart, nobody knows who to count on and things fall apart quickly. So I think we could be there quickly now. Like I said, I think it would take a major catalyst, if not, I think you’re really, probably about 18 months before we see major food shortages, things like that. But like I said, I don’t know. I mean, I’ve been wrong in the past, but I think, you know, just based upon the announcement from the World Economic Forum, what they’re planning on doing the shortages of food and other things that are disappearing, you know, right now I could see major food shortages by winter, for sure.
Curtis Teets:
They’re telling us what they’re gonna do. But nobody, nobody’s listening.
Lynette Zang:
If you think that the world is headed in a direction that makes you a bit concerned for the future. And you’d like to be as self-sufficient and independent as possible, then you’ve come to the right place. My name is Lynette Zang. Now it’s time to go Beyond Gold and Silver.
Lynette Zang:
So I’m so happy to have two important returning guests. I’ve got Sean and Curtis. They are extreme experts in security and planning and project management, and they’ve come today to update us. So if you haven’t seen the first interview with them, then click that link below to see the setup, because I’ve been now working with them over the course of, I don’t know, several months. And I feel like we’ve come so far and that this is so important.
Lynette Zang:
So first of all, welcome you guys. And could you please explain to people a little bit about what you, what you do and then we’ll talk about what you’ve been doing for me.
Sean Connelly:
So, yeah, well, glad to be back on board and just discussing with you what we’re doing and what we’ve been doing. One of our, our main purposes, we’re contingency planners and project managers for the contingency planning. So what we do is we help find people look at where they are right now, and look at mitigating any sort of circumstance that comes to to pass that could interrupt their life and lifestyle, and then be able to hopefully maintain that as much as possible in a safe environment. So whether it’s, you know some sort of a natural disaster or manmade disaster or something else, we wanna make sure you have continuity of operations in both your life continuity of operations in your business. So that’s our primary focus.
Lynette Zang:
Now, both of you are ex-military and then plus Curtis, you have a lot of experience with building. That’s what, that’s what you do.
Curtis Teets:
So, yeah, so yeah, I did three years in, in the army and half of that was in Iraq, the first combat tour in Iraq, Operation Iraqi Freedom. Sean here, he’s got a lot more military experience than I do. But since I’ve been outta the army and before I’ve been in construction my whole life with a family company, and currently here in Phoenix, I’m the general manager of Neo construction. We’re a commercial construction company. So it’s what I’ve done my entire life. And I think that’s why we offer such a unique product with 5 Stones is we both have heavy military, we have military experience, but also within our military experience and all around that it’s it’s project management. And yeah, so the project management is what makes things happen and gets things done the proper way.
Lynette Zang:
Yeah. Now would you say, cause this is how I feel about it, so correct me if I’m wrong, but I think that the organization and the, and the the experience that you have working under stressful circumstances where, you know, something bad is happening around you, but you’re also working on getting into a position to mitigate those problems. And, and I feel like that’s a lot of the value that you’ve brought to the table with my personal project.
Sean Connelly:
Well, I think that’s, yeah, that’s spot on what with where we’re at is what we did is we were in stressful environments. Sometimes the construction can be pretty stressful trying to get things passed through and pushed through, but at the same time you also have operational construction, which, I mean my last project with the military was the deputy commander for the border wall. So we had the pressure of the white house calling every couple of days asking where the wall was and how many miles we’d gotten. And so you had a continuous pressure of getting things done, same time, you’re trying to, you know, balance life. And then there were times when we’re overseas in a combat zone where, you know, like you said, there’s things going on around you, but you’ve, you’re basically trying to repair the team and everybody else operationally for the next move to counter whatever’s going on and also to put yourself in a position of strength. And that’s what we’re, we’re used to dealing with that is when things are falling apart, sometimes we can be a little rough around the edges at times dealing with civilians, but we are we are definitely or about getting the job done and getting it done right.
Lynette Zang:
And that, and that’s really the skillset that we need because whether people realize it or not, you know, we could be seeing a full blown revolution in this country. And if you’re not ready and you’re not prepared for that, well, there’s no time than the present to prepare and get into a proper position. And that kind of takes us to where we’re at on my project. Cause everybody knows that it’s a mountain project, but it’s been phenomenal for me personally, just having somebody there that I know that is organizing and keeping things moving properly and and filling in the holes that I couldn’t think about or didn’t think about or didn’t even know to think about. So let’s talk about where you are because when we had the interview, the first time we hadn’t started yet, but now we’ve begun.
Sean Connelly:
So yeah. So what we’ve we’ve this majority of our time has been, you know, since we started has been information gathering, trying to figure out, you know, not only from you, but from your teammates, from your family members where everything currently was status wise. And so that’s a huge part of the, the situation is understanding that. Then we went out and we started gathering threats, understanding what the threats are. I know, you know, in Arizona for per se, there’s no matter where you live, unless you live in the major city, there’s the risk of forest fires. There’s risks of high winds, there’s risks of snow storms, which might surprise people in Arizona, but you’ve got, you know, but mudslides, you’ve got a number of different things that could cause problems for somebody on a safety side, then you have your threat of criminal elements. You have a threat of disaster from manmade disasters. If somebody caused a problem, you have governance issues. So all those things we look at and, and analyzed we’ve did multiple trips to your property. We’ve done multiple trips to your farm here. Locally, we’ve been made multiple trips to the local community and met with members of the local community. And we been gathering information. So that’s the main part is we’re just gathering and evaluating, gathering and evaluating, and we’ve made some discussions recommendations. Cause we found things that needed to get done right away. With your project. But there are other things where we’re just trying to gather it all and put it in a report and then put help you prioritize what needs to actually get done.
Lynette Zang:
Yeah.
Curtis Teets:
And keep in mind, we, we have a team, a specialists that we work with that we subcontract also for whether it be security specialists, communication specialists to work with them, to help build this report. And they’re kind of behind the scenes. And then we act as the project managers to put these specialists together where each individual attributes to specify exactly what you need for your individual project.
Lynette Zang:
One of the things that we did very quickly was fire mitigation and yeah. And it was, it was kind of interesting because I didn’t really know what to expect, you know, but you got a great team. Can you talk more about fire mitigation and how you, you know.
Sean Connelly:
Yeah. So, so the, the fire mitigation came up, as I know, definitely. You know, some of your family members and yourself were talking about it and here in Arizona fire season gets, I think mid-May or so, and it’s, it gets quick and it’s, we’ve already had a number of fire forest fires here in Arizona. So we moved quickly and Curtis went to the…
Curtis Teets:
There was actually a fire mitigation expo in Prescot and it just so happened to be kind of the right timing was able to go up there and talk to the right contractors, the right county officials to put together what we needed to do to get it done and to get it done quick.
Sean Connelly:
Yeah. And the main thing the fire mitigation does is, you know, you can do, you know, protect the entire property or you can protect the entire area. But one of the thing, the biggest things, we look at structures first to where people, especially occupied structures where people live. And the biggest thing is a lot of people think when they think fire mitigation, you think about like when you’re clearing up all the brush and stuff on your, on your yard or click picking up all your leaves. And that’s not necessarily the case because in, in a forest, fire is actually very cleansing and very healthy for the forest. And so a lot of times they want the, the underbrush, the growth that’s, that’s mild to be trimmed down and taken care of. And they just wanna keep the canopies of the, the tall trees protected. They want, if a fire comes through, they want to burn out quickly without much fuel, but to be able to, to put nutrients back into the soil, and also they don’t want to touch up too much of education then cause then you end up with the erosion problems and the mudslides and those type of issues that you talked about.
Lynette Zang:
Well, one of the things that you also did is is connect me with a government program that would actually pay for most of the mitigation or potentially will pay for most of the mitigation. So even when you’re looking at things that you need to do one of the things I really liked, cause I wouldn’t have even thought about that. I mean, I would’ve thought about the fire mitigation that was on my mind, but I didn’t know that there was a program that would actually, government program, that would actually subsidize my taking care of my property as far as mitigation was concerned.
Curtis Teets:
Yeah. And that that’s kind of going along with proper project manager where you go to the right officials instead of just calling a local guy that might be a laborer or someone who, you know, can do it on the side. You wanna do it with the right companies that have the right certifications that can get you those things, the grants or the reimbursements or whatever it may be because for you know, your property and a lot of others, this is helping the overall community. So you have those programs in place where they’re eager to assist you in any way they can because it helps the overall community.
Sean Connelly:
Well, and, and that’s one of the things we look at, not just in the, in the fire mitigation, but in all aspects, cause as we’ve talked about the other day we we’re about protecting, you know, our clients. And when we say we’re protecting our clients, we’re gonna protect them from the biggest threats. Right. And one of the biggest threats a lot of times is if you, if you go in there and you’re building something that you wanna make sure is taking care of your family and protecting them, you know, and there’s, there’s an area of high winds or high or heavy snowfall and you and somebody has to build a barn without the proper structural integrity. I mean your risk of dying from rods, moving through the area is probably lower right now than the risk of, you know, a barn collapsing cause of a snowfall or wind net issue. So when we look at it, we look at, you know, mitigating all the risk cause there’s, there is that threat that’s of what could come, but you know, you need to prepare for it as best we can. Problem is you can never guarantee. Right. But you can always always look at continuing to keep everybody safe. In the meantime.
Lynette Zang:
The, the other thing that you have been helping me with, and we’re not done with it yet, cause we’re still in the planning stages, but is an overall master plan for the community that I’m developing. Right?
Sean Connelly:
Absolutely.
Lynette Zang:
So even looking at where we can put water catchment systems to help with, well, the fire it’ll also bring in more animals depending upon how we set those systems up, cause there’s lots of options. But I think what’s been really helpful for me is really seeing this whole overall plan start to manifest and start to emerge.
Sean Connelly:
Well, and that’s, that’s one of the biggest things you gotta kind of, one of the things we always we learned through the military is what’s called backwards planning. You really have to go look at the end state in mind. And until you figure out what the end state is, a lot of times you end up, you can piecemeal things together, but it might not ever look like you wanted to because you never knew what the goal was at the end. I mean, it’s kind of like a lot what, what you talked about with gold and silver, what’s, what’s the end state of the dollar. Well now that you know that now that people can come and plan, you know, their state planning, their, you know, what they need to pay their taxes on their property taxes, things like that. But until you understand the end state, you know, when I was meeting with them, some other people there that’s one of the biggest things they talk about is like, what’s your end state and goal.
Lynette Zang:
What’s your goal, right.
Sean Connelly:
Exactly. Until you get the goal out, then you can’t backwards plan and say, well in order to get the step, you know, five, I gotta do step four. I gotta step three and step two and step you can’t start at step one. I mean, and it’s that you know, if you, if I think somebody said, if you, if you point a car, you know, and turn the wheel just a tiny bit, just eventually it’ll end up right back in a circle. If you leave it at that same degree of change. But if, you know, if you think you’re gonna change something, you have to know where you want to go. Because if you leave it at go the wrong direction over time, by the time you get to you get along, you know, 10 miles down the road, you’re, you’re in the wrong location to begin with and you have to start from scratch.
Lynette Zang:
Yeah. That, that’s a, that is a really good point. That’s why, you know, here, you’re right with the wealth preservation and the growth piece, we always wanna know what your goals are and then you can plan it’s the right tool for the right job. When are the tools that you have scheduled. But I think we have it scheduled for pretty soon. And I think this is like, this is quite amazing to me, one of the things is the, that you, that you have us scheduled to do some training where it’s not that I’m only shooting a gun, but it’s not real bullets. Right.
Sean Connelly:
Right.
Lynette Zang:
People are gonna be shooting at me too. Right?
Sean Connelly:
Yeah. Now there’s called simulations. It’s a simulated bullet. It’s it’s fired out of a real gun it’s fired with it looks like a, almost very similar real ammunition. So it’s cartridges, it’s you have to change magazines. It’s very realistic, but it’s a small, fire’s a small paintball round and that small paintball round stings quite a bit when you get hit. And I mean and it and it gives you leaves a little rapport, a little bit of paintball, but the thing is, is what, what we found is, you know, through combat training and through tactical environment and both of us been through, you know, the real environment of fire fights is…you really can’t understand what it’s like to shoot a gun in a combat environment unless somebody’s shooting back at you. And that’s part of the problem with paper training or targets, a steel and stuff is human interaction. It’s kind of like with you’re doing jujitsu or you’re doing something else that you can do the drills all day, but until somebody else is actually countering what you’re doing, you really don’t learn how to operate in that environment. And that’s one of the things we wanna do with y’all. And so, and one of the, just be, we might, you know, work on it where we’re escorting you, we’re the bodyguards for you and you’re moving, but you’ll see how, as we’re pulling you and putting you in a vehicle, if, as we’re extracting you from a position, you know, and you’re being shot at, or, you know, you’re having a duck for cover that that helps you understand, okay. It helps when the stress from something like that actually comes in real life, you can mitigate that stress by understanding what it feels like.
Curtis Teets:
Yeah. A simulation like that. It helps get to his real world as the event as possible. So therefore you understand the consequences much better rather than it just being theoretical. You’ve not been in the real situation, but you’ve been as close to it as possible without getting serious damage. So it does, it does kind of flip a switch in your brain to understand the consequences and how to react during those situations.
Lynette Zang:
Yeah. I think that’s the key is how to react during those situations. So this simulation gives you practice, right?
Sean Connelly:
Yeah. And that’s, and that’s the thing is, is you wanna get that stress level up to where you understand, you know, how you’re gonna react to that stress level. Cause the biggest, one of the worst things people can do is they freeze in a, in a situation cause they don’t feel, they know how to react. And remember I was a young Lieutenant that was the, we were in charge of a platoon and you’re responsible for lives of 40 guys. One of the things we were told all the time is like right or wrong, make a decision and make a decision and stick with it. And that’s, you know, cause sometimes, you know, even a decision that might be not a hundred percent, the best is still, you know, and when you’re executing, it is still better than nothing. I think it was Patton was, you know, known for, you know, his, his theory that, you know, there’s a, a good, good plan today is better, much better than that perfect plan tomorrow. And that’s, you know, where you get things done.
Lynette Zang:
You know, that actually makes so much sense because what I’m finding and we talked about this at our meeting this past weekend is that we know all of these people that know what’s going on or appear to know what’s going on and yet they’re waiting, right. They’re waiting for prices to drop or they’re waiting for this or they’re waiting for that. And it seems to me that as they’re waiting, they’re choosing, they’re making the choice to put themselves and their family and their wealth and everything else in jeopardy over some nominal pricing, which is in my opinion, irrelevant anyway. Cause when you’re looking at the difference between your life and your well-being and your standard of living and your family, you know, what’s, what’s that stupid Fiat, right?
Sean Connelly:
Yeah. And I think, I think that’s, you know, one of the big things that happens with a lot of people is like I said, they get paralyzed. They, they, they have a reason, the normalcy bias puts ’em in a position where like nothing’s ever gonna happen to me, nothing’s ever gonna happen cause it hasn’t happened. And I think there are, you know, there’s some reasonable expectations of that at the same time when you watch the signs, I mean, it’s like you’re getting sicker and sick when you don’t go to the doctor eventually, you know, by the time you find, figure out what’s wrong, it might be too late. And that’s kind of the situation we’re in now. It’s like, you just gotta decide cause not doing anything becomes a decision within itself.
Curtis Teets:
Yeah. And that’s what we wanna help with. A lot of people are a lot of talk and no action and they’re never gonna do anything anyway. But then there’s also a lot of people who wanna do something, but they have paralysis by analysis and that’s where we wanna step in and be able to get them out of that paralysis, help with the analysis. Just like we’re trying to reverse engineer the end goal with you. So we, we can have a plan and it’s kind of like writer’s block, you know, you wanna write, you’ve got the idea, but you just got writer’s block. And then once you start flowing, you can start getting it going and you start, start going. So that’s what we want to do with our clients. You know, the ones who are serious, who are not all talk and no action when they get that paralysis by analysis, we step in, give them a plan, give them a real life vision and a coordinated from a project management standpoint of how it needs to be phased, how it needs to be budgeted and the right team members in place to make it happen. Then you can start making things happen, piece by piece, kind of how we’re going with you. You get the, the most priority things done first and then you’ve already got things off your checklist. Now you can move on to the others and it helps get away from that, that paralysis that people get stuck in.
Sean Connelly:
And one of the things where we’re at right now is action helps, you know, build the team. And as we talked about over this weekend is, you know, one of the big, important things is team building and Tuckman’s stages of group forming a group which, you know, most project managers know is, you know, considered forming, storming, norming, performing, and adjoining, and the forming part sometimes can be nice and smooth and some more of, a lot of formalities and people are trying to get to know each other with the most important part. In my opinion, is the storming part. When people start butting heads, they start clashing a little bit. Yeah. They start trying to figure out other people’s personality and, and understanding what people’s goals and wants and needs are. And once you understand that and understand these people, aren’t threats to you, they’re, they’re part of your team. Once you get past that part in a low stress environment, which is good. Exactly. And when that higher stress environment goes, then you’re in the performing stage of the norming phase. And that’s much better to do that at that time than it is to, than in, to be in a function. That’s one of the things with military units is the military units that were most cohesive and worked the best. At least in the first a hundred days of combat were teams that had been informed in advance and gone through multiple stressful environments, the other teams where they threw a bunch of guys together and put ’em in a environment and put ’em overseas together at once. Always, you know, did a lot worse, at least in the first a hundred days because they were trying to go through that storming phase while they, which means they had to count on each other while they’re trying to get to know each other and trying to work through the issues.
Curtis Teets:
It takes a while for people to settle on their roles, know each other’s strength and weaknesses and be able to be comfortable with each other.
Lynette Zang:
Yeah. It, it is interesting because exactly what you said, the, the, I don’t know you say it better than I do because I don’t know <laugh> how that lays lays out, but yeah, we’re in the, we’re in the storming phase. Yeah. And I’m glad that we are, because what do you think really the likelihood, in your opinion, and with your, both your backgrounds and experience, what do you think the likelihood of us needing all of this experience and the planning in place? What do you think the chances are of that? If you had to do it on a scale of one to 10, just to make it
Sean Connelly:
Easier? You know, my is I’ve learned a long time ago. I’m bad at predicting. Otherwise I’d be really good at the real estate.
Lynette Zang:
I didn’t ask you for timing.
Sean Connelly:
No, no. I can say, I mean, I think, you know, with this transition period and this fourth turning that we’re going through right now, and the fact that in order in the midst of a fifth generational warfare and everything else, I I’d say for sure, it’s at least 50/50. I mean, it could be at any, any to 50/50 chance that it could go completely bad now, are we gonna see some bad things? Absolutely. Are we gonna see, like in a sense that I think, you know, we’re gonna see massive crime increases, you’re gonna see food shortages, you’re gonna see a major transition period. And I think, you know, it depends on people’s level of tolerance for totalitarianism. Oh, as far as how far are we go? Yeah. But I think, you know, by the time people start to wake up, it’s gonna get pretty ugly. And at that stage it’s gonna be ugly and I wouldn’t wanna be in town for it. So I can say that now, as far as the level of, you know, a hundred percent societal breakdown, I’m not sure. I think, like I said, it’s a 50/50 chance in this transition period, but it’s gonna get ugly between now and then. But when I say ugly, our problem is, is people in America don’t understand what, what it is. Cause even if we transition to become a Honduras, Belize or a Venezuela r Thailand or one, these countries where you have the haves and the have nots and the middle class is completely gone. That’s, I mean, that’s, that’s brutal for most people cause they won’t be in a position where most of them will end up trying to become a have not have, but they’re gonna advise a half not and they don’t know how to live that way.
Curtis Teets:
Yeah. It’s much of the frog and the boiling water. I think so many people are gonna realize they’re getting cooked and it’s just gonna be too late for them to get out or prepare. And like when you ask that question, it’s just a very hard question to answer, cause it’s almost like, well a hundred percent, yeah. There’s gonna be a fourth turning. There’s gonna be some sort of a revolution. Now this revolution’s not gonna look like the first revolution. Right. But there’s gonna be some sort of that. And we’re probably in the midst of it right now, looking back in history, 2020 will probably be the real start of that. Some people might even say 2008, but really 2020 will be the really start. And it might go to 2030 who knows of that real revolutionary fourth turning. But so in my opinion, yeah, a hundred percent it’s gonna happen, but what is the scale like Sean’s saying, what what’s that scale gonna be? Well I think it is gonna come down to a lot more have nots than haves, but where where’s that percentage gonna, gonna kind of fall out and be the new norm and then start all over from there with a whole lot less people with a whole that have any kind of ownership or freedom.
Sean Connelly:
I mean, I’ll, I would like to sit it out and, you know, be in a position to sit it out in a mountain, you know, resort than I would prefer to sit in a city for sure. And I think people need to prepare for that because you know it’s but I mean, you might have, you know, it does it most disasters and most things that happen on a major scale tend to be local. And I mean, if you look at any hurricanes, if you look at any even wars, wars, you know, like look at countries like Syria, where, you know, Syria’s been to war for years in the entire, you know, entire section of the country had to flee and, and go to the other park. But other parts of the country, you know, if you look at videos and stuff, people kind of going about their normal day, there’s some bombings now and then, but they’re going about their normal day. So that’s a country that’s war torn, and yet you still have sections of it. So what pocket, you know, where we live will be or what pocket anybody else will live will be. I don’t know. And I can’t predict that, but I can tell you, you know, you wanna be prepared if you’re the, one of the pockets that goes bad.
Lynette Zang:
Yeah, absolutely. So, so when you’re looking at my preparedness and, and honestly I started working on this a long time ago. Okay. But what level would you say we’re at and how much further do we have to go and can you give, you know, part of the point of this is to give people a little bit of meat that they can take in and execute for themselves.
Sean Connelly:
Well, so going into your mantra. I think this would be good way to, to kind of talk about it cause that’s that your mantra kind of lets you go. So I think when we’re talking about Food on your mantra Food, I think you’re very well, you know, you’re probably, you know, 75% of the way there 70%, because the thing is, is you can never plan for exactly what’s gonna happen. It’s just all, you know, the best estimate. So you can never be a hundred percent, but I would say you’re probably, you know, on the food side, you know, particularly when, when you get some of this
Lynette Zang:
The hot house is built hot. They’re about to start. Yeah.
Sean Connelly:
And you get the crops going there and you get your food and stuff like that. I’ll say, you know, in, in six months you’ll be 75% of the way there. For sure, you know, as long as you can sustain healthy crops and healthy animals, and I think you that’ll, that’ll be good there. You know, water, I mean, I think you’re pretty good, you know, cause you got some natural water sources from the, some, the ground and Wells and that would be hard. And shelter wise. Yeah. Shelter wise, we talked about like, you know, getting some additional tents, some campers, some temporary type stuff until you get some more permanent stuff built. But those, those hopefully number wise, it should be at the position where we think you’ll be, you know, short, short term. Yeah. 80% there, you know, because you’ll have, you know, all the shelter you need at least minimum, at least minimal shelter, you know? Right. Some place from somebody to stay and be warm and out of the elements
Lynette Zang:
And not in my bedroom.
Sean Connelly:
Exactly. Yeah. <Laugh> not everybody living in your, you know, on the floor in your living room, you know? Right. So I think that’s, that’ll be really big there at, at a minimum. And then security wise, I think we’ve got some work we need to talk about security wise. I mean, your, your location is, is amazing. And in the sense, you know, from a security perspective, I mean, it definitely is, you know, you know from a location perspective, I think what we need to do is just figure out, you know, how and where the gaps are and talk about that. So that one mm-hmm <affirmative> I think, you know, it we can talk a little bit offline on that, cause there’s a couple things I don’t wanna, you know, go into detail on with, but I think your security you’re there. Barterability one of the things we’re actually gonna, we’re gonna talk about is I think on, you know, with a lot of your resources, you’re very, very close. But I think maybe the resources that you have. One of the things we were thinking about, we were talking about the other day is medical stuff. You have the medical, some people with your great medical skills and their skills. If they have, you know, some excess medicine, if they have some excess bandages, if they have excess things, those skills can be very barterable, especially, I mean, when people were out of Tylenol or, or basic antibiotics or things like that, those things will become extremely vulnerable. And so setting up some sort of medical clinic might be, you know, in the community where you’re at might be a good resource to be able to yeah. Barterability
Lynette Zang:
We have two doctors in our group, so we could do that!
Sean Connelly:
And exactly. So, I mean, and we know where based where you are, there’s not a lot of really accessible walkable, medical facilities. There are none!
Sean Connelly:
Exactly! So so I mean, if in the time of emergency people, can’t drive, you know, right. 50 miles, a hundred miles to get to a doctor
Lynette Zang:
That is a really good point. And just sort of as an aside since I’ve been up there and I had my dogs up there one of my dogs got into a little dog fight where he was wounded and thank God I had just brought up extra antibiotics. And I had in there all my gauzes and ointments and all of that, because if I hadn’t had that there to work with, then either I would’ve had to have brought him down the hill, which he wouldn’t been very happy because he was in pain or I might have lost him. I mean, I don’t know. So, you know, anybody, I think that is a really good point for anybody that is getting prepared or especially those that have an ongoing health issue that they have to deal with. You know, you have to make sure that you have those tools before you need them. Because I was in the middle of nowhere, there was nothing that I really could do for him other than bringing him down the mountain, which would’ve not been great for him.
Sean Connelly:
And, but right now you, you have that choice to bring him down the mountain
Lynette Zang:
Exactly.
Sean Connelly:
To fall apart. You might not have that choice that the medical clinics are overrun and the police are, are overrun because of, because it won’t take much. I mean, people, I kinda laugh cause they kept talking about the medical facilities were 80% full because of COVID. But the problem is, is they run in the United States because it’s a for-profit business, they’ve run ICUs intensive carriers run at 80%. And so when there’s a mass casualty event, when I say a mass casualty event, I’m the that’s the definition is I believe it might, I don’t, I forgot what the federal definition, but it used to be, the definition was six or more casualties.
Curtis Teets:
Mass shootings, four
Sean Connelly:
Exactly. Yeah. But a mass mass casualty event was like an accident, an accident or anything that happens when there’s more than six victims of being right away. Cause that becomes a mass casualty. When you think about this, if you have five mass casualties events in a, in one major city, over a time, hospitals are not only overwhelmed, they’re breaking. And so even, you know, locally where you are, even if you don’t have to evacuate the city, you have to be prepared for, to treat yourself on most, as many things as you possibly can.
Curtis Teets:
And keep in mind too, like you asked a few months ago, like where are we at in just the overall, like how bad can things get right now on a scale of one to 10 saying 10 is absolute warfare. We look like a war torn Syria or something like that. We’re still very low. We’re two or three on a 10 scale of 10 because all the institutions are still in place. Yeah. We’re losing our freedoms. Yeah. We can see the economic system about to buckle
Lynette Zang:
And they’re defunding a lot of the police forces. I mean, crime is definitely on the rise.
Curtis Teets:
Exactly. And you could start seeing the cracks in the institutions, the police forces, the government systems, the private hospitals, these things still are still standing. We have our services that we all take for granted that we all use every day. Now, when those start just completely breaking and going away, and it’s every man for themselves, the institutions are broke down. That’s when real chaos comes in, you go to the grocery store and 80% of the shelves are, are empty. Or the grocery store is completely shut down. Cause it got ransacked by marauders. That’s when it’s, and then there’s no police to stop that. And then there’s no hospital to bring to people who got injured in that riot to go to that’s when institutions are just completely broken. And we’re quite a ways away from that. But I mean, we’re heading in that direction at a slow, slow boil right now.
Sean Connelly:
I mean, like, just for example, Phoenix police department right now is, you know, is already a thousand police officers understaffed. And, and yet there’s. I think I forgot what percentage of ’em, but large percentage of the police far versus on that age that are already about ready to retire aging out. And so in the next few years they’ll probably be retiring. And many of ’em as soon as they possibly can cause of the environment they’re working at right now. And so, and they’re not being replaced by people and, or they’re replacing with people who, you know, in some cities they’ve talked about like replacing people with criminal backgrounds, let them be police officers now. And so you’ve gotta sit.
Lynette Zang:
Wait, what I didn’t hear that one.
Curtis Teets:
Yeah. They’re starting to fill the ranks with, with their own. Just, it’s kind of like the Fox running the hen house.
Sean Connelly:
I mean, well the example is like, I know there’s some, some inner cities, particularly like some of the cities I think in Chicago or some others they’re large cities and they just, they need more and more police officers. And they have found that like a lot of young men were in trouble and were arrested and you know, got some criminal backgrounds. And those that used to be a pretty much disqualification, a hundred percent there. But now they’re starting to talk about, and I don’t know if any police force have specifically done it yet, but some of ’em are talking about well weigh certain criminal activities in order to let people be, you know, in the police force cause they can’t fill the ranks at all. And same with the military and things like that where there’s, they’re starting to lower some of the standards.
Curtis Teets:
Yeah. The standards are just the same might not be absolute criminals, but the standards have I saw in the short time I was in the military from the time I went in to the time I went out, I forgot the exact numbers on the, I think it was the ASVAB is the original test. You have to take that kind of places you in your military occupation, they lowered the score that you needed to qualify for. Mm-Hmm <affirmative> by a large amount, I don’t know the exact numbers, but that, and that was 15-20 years ago. And I can guarantee you it’s only been lowered since then. So the quality of people that we depend on and trust in the police force and the military are not the quality of people that you would expect to be in there.
Lynette Zang:
So how quickly do you think it could deteriorate?
Sean Connelly:
I mean, to be honest with you, I mean the right catalyst and you could be, we could be, you know, evacuating in a few months, I mean, or a few weeks. I mean, I don’t know.
Lynette Zang:
I’m not ready yet. <Laugh>
Curtis Teets:
Look what 9-11 did
Curtis Teets:
But that, that was on a scale that was a minor attack. I know I’ll probably get a lot of crap for that, but imagine if you had 20 coordinated nine, 11 type attacks at the same time, this country would lose their mind, people would be hysterical.
Sean Connelly:
Yeah. I mean, like I said, you could, you could see a situation where you have, you know, I mean a couple of place nuclear strikes or something like that could deteriorate everything rapidly within a matter of we’re just not a society we used to be in the sense of, we don’t have the neighbors that we we’ friends with. We don’t have the communities we used to be able to count on. So if things start to fall apart, nobody knows who to count on and things fall apart quickly. So I think we could be there quickly now. Like I said, I think it would take a major catalyst, if not, I think you’re really, probably about 18 months before we see major food shortages, things like that. But like I said, I don’t know. I mean, I I’ve been wrong in the past, but I think, you know, just based upon the announcement from the world economic forum, what they’re planning on doing and all the shortages of food and other things that are disappearing, you know, right now I could see major future shortages by this, you know, winter for sure.
Curtis Teets:
They’re, they’re telling us what they’re gonna do, but nobody nobody’s listening. You, there’s not enough of us listening.
Lynette Zang:
And it’s really interesting because I just did a report on the WEF, which won’t go out until next week, but on the WEF they’re economists, and on specifically on food security, they ranked, you know, the US Europe and number of other countries. And basically for the US, it was either secure or very secure. There was no insecurity there, which actually makes absolutely zero sense to me because I know people that have to make a choice between putting money in their gas tank or, or food on the table. And there’s a lot of food insecurity in the US, maybe not as bad as other countries, but yeah.
Sean Connelly:
Yeah. And I think we’re just gonna continue as inflation continues to increase, and then you see the mysterious unknown foods processing plants that keep getting burned or destroyed miraculously without anybody investigating, I think is a very interesting dynamic as well. So there’s a lot of those type things going on, but yeah, I think we’re, you know, definitely be prepared to barter. I was telling you a story the other day. I don’t know if you want me to share about, you know, what happened in Pakistan.
Lynette Zang:
I do and I do want you to share that. Go ahead. Okay. And I think don’t, we have some video or images of that.
Sean Connelly:
Well, Curtis and I looked in, when we were in Iraq, everybody was wanting to buy the Iraqi dinar
Lynette Zang:
Which, yeah, Curtis gave me a 250, interestingly enough, a 250 dinar note. And can Edgar can, maybe you could put it up close to the camera for zoom in, so you can see, because on this side, it’s in Iraqi and on this side, it’s in English.
Curtis Teets:
Yeah. Isn’t that interesting how the English speaking world is the great Satan that Saddam would call it, but yet he’s got his own money in English.
Lynette Zang:
Yeah. I think that’s really interesting.
Sean Connelly:
Well, amazing. Also, when we went over the stockpiles of billions of US dollars, he had everywhere. I mean, he stockpiled billions of dollars basically to his currency was based upon the billions of dollars that he had hidden and the oil. So that was his, what it went back to his, but yeah, well, we both bought a bunch of Iraq dinar hoping that there was gonna come back to at least somewhat where it originally was for years. And now it’s, you know, now it’s great, you know, decoration that’s about it. And then so, but that was one of my mistakes, but I did find the value of real gold and, and silver. So you know, particularly, so I’ve got this coin here, and this is a it’s a British sovereign from 1911, and it’s actually a Pakistani sovereign and a buddy of mine who I was in the military with. He is a great guy named Paul. He he gave me when he found out I was gonna Pakistan. He gave me a couple of those coins and said, Hey man, if you in a tight jam, you can get over there and it’ll might be able to help you out. And so I, I had him in my pocket with me and while I was there and we had it was about the same time as Daniel Pearl had been kidnapped and behead was when I was over there. And so I was at the Karachi airport and they had an attempted kidnapping for me and a Colonel that were there, where they tried to take us from the airport right in the same area of Karachi, where he was kidnapped about, you know, six months after he had been killed. And then we had and so we’re, you know, dealing with, you know, a lot of this stuff, but I had, we were assigned security guards. We were also assigned what they call bat boy and bat boy is a, basically a servant the army used to have basically just to, they helped you do your laundry. They take care of your food. They help take care of all the things that you do as an officer. You’re busy to doing whatever you do, or, or as a guest, you you’re doing all these things. And so I gave him him one and gave my guard, you know, a little silver one and the bat boy, I said, look, just keep an eye out for things. If you hear about anything bad, if you’re doing anything going on, let me know, or just make sure nothing happens to me. And when I leave, I’ll be sure to give you the second one with the coins. And I didn’t tell him where it was or I held it, but I had it, you know, with me on all times. And he I mean, everything went fine. I don’t know if that was the why, but I definitely know it gave him a lot more incentive to make sure I was protected. And you know, that he kept his ear to the ground. If anybody was trying to plot anything against me or do anything else. And so, unfortunately, I mean, we had to medivac one of the colonels I was with until we evacuated right away, without being able to see him again and give him the second one, but I’ve still got that second one on me to keep, you know, for just that experience that, you know, the gold, because that gold, you know, that one gold coin I gave him was cause I think I was paying him. We were supposed to pay him a dollar a week and I was paying him like, you know, $5 a week because just to be nice. But I mean, even that $5 a week was more than the rest of his family made combined. And so that gold coin, you know, was, you know, probably, you know, more than his family made in a year mm-hmm
Lynette Zang:
<Affirmative> it probably was. And historically, you know, gold, silver diamonds, things like that, tangibles that actually have wealth can buy you safety. Yeah. And that’s been true in the past and I’m pretty sure that’ll be true in the future, which is one of the reasons why you need all of the gold, but now you’ve been, both of you have been in countries where their currencies have gone to zero, like hence the Iraqi dinar, weren’t you telling me some experience?
Sean Connelly:
Yeah. I mean, I do. I know when we were in some of these countries where I was in central America or other places where you see, you know, kids they’ll just come up with anything they can to sell. And I mean, you know, loaf of bread or whatever it is. And, and it’s interesting because the currency, they didn’t want their own currency. Mm-Hmm <affirmative> they wanted US dollars. They wanted something that was at the time. I mean, it was still Fiat, but at the same time, US currency had value even though you’re in another country. And so you could, they would, they’d much prefer, you know, one US dollar to a thousand of Iraqi or a thousand, you know, other countries currencies, you know? So that was one of the things we definitely saw as is you saw, a lot of people in those countries wanting something of value or they trade you. They really love to trade stuff. I mean, they would, they’d much better to barter. Like they preferred you to give ’em a, you know a pair of binoculars or, you know, I mean or something that they would, you know then they would take their own currency
Curtis Teets:
In Iraq. We would go each week and we would exchange a $20 American bill for dinar. And I don’t know how many hundreds or probably millions of dinar we would get, but we would get stacks and stacks of that money there. And we would go into town and we’d eat, you know, use it to eat. Use Iraqi’s were really good at giving haircuts, we’d buy things like rugs. And we, a lot of guys would buy Iraqi made suits, but with that $20 as we’re on foot patrol we had to do two, six hour foot patrols a day in Baghdad and 2003 and 2004. But so while we’re in Baghdad with that $20, you can live like a king every week.
Lynette Zang:
Yeah. Well, I think maybe we’re coming up to that even in this country, because that sounds like it’s way over there. Yeah. But I think the inflation that we’re all experiencing right now makes it very close to home.
Sean Connelly:
Yeah. Well, I mean even, yeah, I think, and right now when you start talking to people, I think a lot of people would much they wanna get paid right now. Yeah. Cause they know it, you know, it used to be people like, oh, you know, you get around and pay me six months or a year, even contractors, they gotta get the money now because the value of the money is losing, you know, it’s value every week or so.
Curtis Teets:
I’m losing money on projects right now. I have you know, just in a course of starting a large project, say’s a three or four months project. We know we bid that project several months out before and now when the project gets accepted and we start moving on it, what we bid three, four months ago. Now we can’t do it at the same profit that we, we bid. And so in the course of that project, our profit margins is getting eaten away. We we’ve done large jobs where the price of lumber has almost doubled in the middle of that job. So we’ll pay for one lumber lumber load at 80 grand. And then you know, three weeks later we had to pay for another lumber load and we had to pay 160 grand for the same amount in the course of four weeks.
Lynette Zang:
Wow.
Curtis Teets:
It’s killing, it’s killing us. And I’m just one small general contractor and Phoenix is loaded with some and so is everywhere else. So everybody’s getting hammered by this.
Lynette Zang:
So what do you think the ramifications of that is gonna be, I mean, how are you gonna be, how are you gonna be bidding these future jobs, especially since the powers that be, are now admitting that inflation is gonna run hot for longer?
Sean Connelly:
Yeah. So two things change is, you know, for the past probably since the nineties we’ve been in, what’s called a just in time method on construction, particularly or even most projects where it’s like you just, you order stuff and get it there just right before you need to install it. And so you don’t wanna store thing and stockpile things. And, and so what we’ve seen is most of our the construction industry, basically, most people are doing, they’re taking things they’re buying in advance as soon as like they get awarded the contract, they buy it as much as a material as possible in advance and pay for it. And then the second thing is, is you’re starting to see more and more contingencies written into contracts where it’s like, okay, I’ll build this for you for a hundred thousand dollars. But if the price of materials goes up by 10% or more, you have to pay the difference.
Sean Connelly:
And so a lot of people, you know, doing that as a contingency. So it’s changing the way we’re doing business just in a minor way. But I think it could, you know, if as, as the money supply, doesn’t keep out of the demand, can’t keep up with the, the money, especially if they had to do another quantity or something like that, then all of a sudden you’ll get to a point where what happens is, you know, then it’s just a matter of shortages, you know, and that’s starting to, we’re starting to see a little of that happen as well.
Curtis Teets:
Well, this, this morning, I was in a big meeting for a huge office remodel. And we are already ordering all the flooring. We’re ordering all the lighting, we’re ordering everything right now. And we’re probably eight to 12 weeks before we even start. And I don’t even have a contract for building it yet. I assume I’m gonna get it. But just to get ahead of things, we’re ordering things now because the supply chain is so stretched thin. And we’re just ordering now, because if we wait 8, 12, 16 weeks to order it, we know we’re gonna pay more. Right. So even the client understands that. So it’s like, okay, I’m paying you without a contract to get the stuff now, because we know we’re not gonna be able to get it when we need to.
Lynette Zang:
Yeah. That’s actually what happened with me with the hot houses. I wasn’t actually planning on starting that project until this year 2022, but because of what was happening and I saw the supply chains, breaking down. I ordered everything last year. I paid for everything last year and now they’re gonna, they, they fabricated it and they ordered everything at that point. But now we’re finally gonna start actually putting it on site. And I’m very grateful that I did all of that, cause it probably costs a whole lot more now.
Curtis Teets:
Another side effect too, is people are getting a lot less for a lot more. So they may have a certain spec, but Spec’s unavailable. So now they’re forced to choose an alternative spec and pay even more for a less quality spec, whether it be a lighting package, whether it be flooring, whether it be some kind of custom cabinetry, whatever, whatever it may be. You’re, you’re having to settle for a lot less, but you’re also paying more for it than what you normally would. Yeah. And that that’s just, it’s hitting everybody in every aspect.
Sean Connelly:
Well, I love the term Skimpflation I think, you know, people, if they don’t believe things are going, you know, getting wrong, go to get a box of cereal or get a bag of, you know, chips or something like that and see how many, I mean, if you can find an old one in your storage from six months ago, look at how many, open up, dump them both in a bowl and see that, that same size bag now has half as many chips or half as much, you know.
Curtis Teets:
Your Snickers bars are getting smaller, but you’re paying the same price.
Sean Connelly:
Your toilet paper’s smaller stuff. So this inflation, it’s the way that the companies aren’t raising your prices, but they’re lowering your quality.
Lynette Zang:
Yeah. Yeah. And they’re doing it, you know, much as everybody’s having problem hiring people. Part of that is also the business model because if you can get everything digitized and you don’t need the human body there. And so you’re getting less service even though you’re paying the same or you’re paying more. And I wonder I wonder how stretched we can be in that arena before things break.
Sean Connelly:
Yeah. And that’s, that’s the question that I think that’s the, the billion dollar question there. Cause if somebody can figure out exactly how, when it’s gonna break, then they’ll be way ahead of the game. I mean, we know that it’s just, when’s that next, that straw that’s gonna break the camels back cause it’s like it’s continu to be loaded and loaded and loaded. And I think, you know, whether it’s the economy or the pressures of you know, the cultural pressures going on right now and things like that, those things are just continuing to amount and they’re not any, there’s no pressure valve, there’s no pressure relief valve to let things go. So
Lynette Zang:
Yeah. And next year, 2023, with the transition of all of those contracts, all those derivative contracts from the one interest rate benchmark to the new one, when they ran a small test on it of 80 million and it was a big fat fail. You know, the time to get prepared, the time to get into position is when you have as many options as possible open to you. Because I think part of what I’m hearing from you, so correct me if I’m wrong is that our options are shrinking. It’s it’s not just the value in those packages that are shrinking, but it’s also the options. And then the ability to execute
Sean Connelly:
Well, that’s one of the things you talked about with people that are waiting for the prices to go down, to buy a property or to buy, you know, whatever contingency planning they need or anything like that. Well, those options are gonna are gonna shrink. I mean, whether it’s whether it’s us, I mean, right now we have capacity to help some people. But I mean our capacity shrinks because more and more people are getting to that or it’s like, you wanna buy yourself a ranch or something like that. And those with money start when the things start to get the writing gets closer and closer on the wall, people are gonna start going out and price prices of all the houses in major cities might collapse. But the farm country pricing is gonna go explode because people are just trying to flee and get out of the city. So you know, as you said, there’s there’s options right now and there’s timing because there’s a little bit of normalcy bias in everybody’s life, no matter who you are, but if you don’t have prepared to build that community now and build that and to focus on those options, like I said, build that, that get through that forming stage form your teams get through the storming stage, know where people are, whether it’s because it’s, even if you move to a new community and you move and you go to the local restaurant, people don’t know you. I mean, they’re, they’re at that forming stage and they might not be as trusting of you. And so until they get to know you, you’re kind of going through that snoring phase. But if you’re a local and you’re visiting ’em every day for the next six months and, and year, and then all of a sudden somethings fall apart, they’re like, okay, this is one of our guys. And in compared to like, okay, I just bought the house and now things fall apart. They’re like, was this guy on our side or not?
Lynette Zang:
Right. And, and you know, the other thing that I can absolutely attest to, because of course with the gold and silver, I was working on that a long time before, but when 2008 hit, you know, I knew that that’s when the system really died. And so I have been working hard and diligent and consistent, and I had so much to learn. I still do. But I mean, at that point I knew nothing about gardening, farming, irrigation, you know, security. I mean, I knew nothing but I knew that it had to happen and it had to happen while I still had the opportunity to learn and put it in place. And yeah, once, you know, March and April of 2020 hit, I was so grateful that I had spent that much time and energy and focus on developing, you know, even just my gardens out there, cause I was able to help people and I had no problem giving away toilet paper cause I had plenty of it and I don’t care if they call me a hoarder, I’m not a hoarder. My house is deep and tidy, but I am hoarding those essential pieces that we need. Even those chips, even though I know that they’re like, but my grandkids like them and we wanna make sure that there’s a little bit of comfort.
Curtis Teets:
Yeah.
Lynette Zang:
You know, when you’re in a crisis circumstance, I don’t want anybody that’s up there to feel like they’re living day to day in a crisis circumstance.
Curtis Teets:
Right. And like by way you said back to the options, the options are shrinking. And then what’s, what’s in that, that pool of shrinking options, options are less quality and you’re paying more for them. So it is just kinda like if you can get it, yeah. It’s a triple win, but like, like people trying to get new vehicles or you, the used car dealerships with the chip shortages and everything else. Yeah. People are having to settle for a lot less because they have no other option, but at the same time they’re not getting it at a deal or a steel they’re paying more for it than what the, the better option would’ve been two years ago.
Sean Connelly:
Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, right now construction materials, one thing that’s big is, I mean is concrete. I mean, you’ve got, you know, entire, you know, entire cities now where the concrete, you know, being basically rationed already. Wow. And then, you know, when we were starting to where you came, you know, I mean used to be used to be, you’d have, you know, call guy in 20 minutes. He’s like, oh yeah, I can get a truck over there and stuff like that. Now it’s like, okay, you know, all the concrete plants are shut down on Fridays and they will not get deliver any to anybody on Fridays and they won’t deliver. And they’ve got, you know, multiple days of the week where, you know, they’re rationing and you can only get so much, so many yards of concrete per week, depending on the size of your project and your budget and stuff. So it’s, it’s, you know, it’s changed quite a bit.
Curtis Teets:
Yeah. I mean, right now I’m doing a large distribution center in California. We ordered the electrical panels in April of this year and we’ll be lucky to, they’re usually available or maybe a month out. We’re not gonna get them until the end of March of next year. And that’s still no guarantee. And that’s an alternative spec that we could get our hands on. Wow. So a project that was supposed to be completed, this is a pretty massive project was supposed to be completed in September of 2022. We’re not even gonna get the, the essential pieces until probably mid 2023. And then I’m sure there’ll be a delay within there cause like now when you’re told a lead time on items in construction, you don’t ever hold it to that lead time cause you know, it’s gonna get pushed back and that’s the new norm in a construction industry, unfortunately.
Lynette Zang:
So, so what’s the message here that you really what’s the takeaway that you really want people to understand. And this is so vital because of where we are right now in this trend cycle.
Curtis Teets:
Well the big, big thing I’ll say with what we’re doing with, with you and contingency planning and it goes across the boards with construction too, is the longer you wait, the more it’s gonna cost you whether it be money, whether it be your freedom, whether it be your discomfort of living. It is time to take action. People who are sitting on their hands are just gonna get run over. They’re either gonna get run over by an imposing government by an economic collapse. Some they’re gonna get caught and you need to get ahead of that storm and like with, what you’re doing and what we’re trying to help people do is trying to get them ahead of that storm. You know, you wanna repair the roof and the sunshine. You don’t wanna try to repair your roof during a rainstorm.
Lynette Zang:
Let alone a hurricane.
Curtis Teets:
Yeah, exactly.
Sean Connelly:
Yeah. When, and I think that’s, you know, the biggest, you know, when we talk about this is building your team now and people they don’t think of this. Cause right now the average American has had never really any need to think about preparing or doing anything like that. And Curtis and I, and you, we don’t, we’re not, our lives aren’t on hold. We’re not stopping our entire life to prepare for this. I mean, we’re continuing our lives, but I mean, you know, I think we are definitely preparing, but we’re, it’s like a tithing or putting something away. If people put away 10% of their income for, you know, for retirement eventually, then they need to, you know, then they’ll be better repaired for the future, you know.
Lynette Zang:
Unless they’re holding it and fee money assets.
Sean Connelly:
But if you, if you put 10% additional into your mortgage over the years, eventually if your mortgage will be paid a lot faster, I mean those type of things. Yeah. But right now that’s what people need to do is just find a percentage of your time and your money and says, look, you know, I can’t, I mean, I can obviously can’t give up life right now, but at the same time I can get my team and my friends together and we can do up the table talk exercise. I mean, that’s a really good one. We’re looking forward to doing that with you and your team for the the proof of concept, you know, or our self concept, rock drill that we’re gonna do. And that’s where you just, everybody gets around the table and you lay things out and you say, okay, if this happens, what do we do if this happens, what do you do? And then you start realizing what gaps you have. Yeah. And you’re, and you can prioritize those. So those are simple things to do. It’s kind of, you know, like just, you know, people sitting around playing monopoly when their kids to eventually learn how to use money, it’s like right now, in order to understand contingencies, you sit around and start war gaming and start actually building your team and figuring out strengths, weaknesses, and how to mitigate those.
Lynette Zang:
Yeah. I think that’s one thing that honestly, I feel, you know, so grateful for is that we are going over these contingencies because one person can’t think of everything I’ve been working on this for so long. But did you find gaps?
Sean Connelly:
Yes, ma’am.
Lynette Zang:
Okay. And it wasn’t intentional gaps. It’s just not within my experience or thought process. And I think that’s the importance of bringing in a team like you guys, because you definitely have that experience and make no mistake about it. We are headed into a war if we’re not already in it, to be honest with you, it’s
Curtis Teets:
Kind of, we at stage we’re at war, it’s a, it’s a whole different type of war it’s it’s. I’ve mentioned it a few times. It’s fifth-generation warfare. We may not be lining up in lines and firing Musk each, each other. We may not, might not be trenches. It might not be a world war II type of war, but we are in a fifth-generation warfare where we are constantly getting bombarded by the media with their lies, by the food plants and the food shortages by the supply shortages by government intrusion, by economic manipulation, by cultural Marxism, you look at it from a hundred different points and we’re just getting bled out by a thousand cuts. And the intention of fifth generational war is most people don’t realize they’re in a war, right. When we’re in a full war war right now.
Sean Connelly:
Yeah. There’s a, there is a, I mean, there’s no doubt that there’s a group of highly you know, I won’t say intelligent, but you know, the elitist who believe and view that people are commodities. Yeah. And not individuals to be cherished, but their commodities to be used. Yeah. And what they do is they’re, they look at it, whether they’re dealing with the, you know, these slave camps in foreign countries where they get their materials made and they get their goods made and they have no problem putting people in slavery or killing them or doing whatever they need to do in order to move forward their agenda and they’ve announced their agenda. And so one world, you know government that’s says the way they, they envision it and they don’t care about individual freedoms. They don’t care about individual’s rights and they don’t care about individual’s lives. What they do care about is just this power. And so there’s, there’s, we’re in this World War III, but it’s not like, you know, like I said, it’s not access allies powers. It’s more of, you know, the people versus the totalitarians. And that’s where we’re at right now.
Curtis Teets:
And the funny thing is, they’re telling us what they want to do. They’re telling us.
Lynette Zang:
Hiding in plain sight
Curtis Teets:
They’re telling us that because they know so few people are gonna take action. They’ve gotten to the, they’ve gotten so emboldened yeah. To where they can tell us exactly how they’re gonna control us. And they know 99% of people are just gonna want their Netflix and their beer and their football. And they’ll just, they’ll just move on.
Lynette Zang:
Well, I don’t want them to move on with my freedom or my family’s freedom. I wanna keep choices and options where, you know, and family is broad for me, as you all know, family’s kind of broad. I have my little core family, but my family is bigger than that. So I was very happy when you told me this past weekend that we’ve now set up and secured enough that I can sleep 40 people. They don’t have to be in my bedroom, which I’m really happy about a lot. And I really appreciate you, you know, I mean, we have a far away to go, but we don’t have as far away to go as we did back in 2010, when I bought that property and started.
Sean Connelly:
And your leaps and bounds above 90% of the population for sure.
Lynette Zang:
But I, I would want every single person watching this to be, you know, where I am and past that. And that’s the whole point of all of my work. And yeah, it’s kind of, it’s really interesting because what, I’ve, what I’ve come to really realize over this period of time and talking to some extremely bright and knowledgeable people as well is there’s just that they get it up to here, but they don’t get it over to here. And if you’re set up here and it stops over here, great. I just have a fantastic property for my family and friends to come and have a great time. But if we need it over here, now I have a whole community with the whole people that have all these different gifts and talents, and we’re all coming together to support each other. And guess what? I’m thinking that we’ll have a lot of fun.
Curtis Teets:
Yeah. Hey, it’s better to have it and not need it than to need it, not have it.
Sean Connelly:
And like you said, it’s, it’s a dual purpose. I mean, it would be a generational retreat for y’all. That’ll be great, you know, for the kids and grandkids. I mean, I give you an example. I’ve got a friend of mine. Their grandmother built the cabin back in the 1940s or fifties. Maybe, maybe its late or latest the sixties, but right. But they kept that cabin and now the great grandkids are enjoying that cabin that was built to know. And it’s just a kind of one room, you know, they eventually add a bedroom type cabin up in the national forest area. And, but it’s still, you know, four generations later, they’re still enjoying that. So there’s nothing bad. And if you’re in a small farm community under my wife, you know, misses, you know, one of her greatest memories growing up was going to a grandparents’ farm and going out there and watching a grandparents’ farm. So those type of things, they, you know, you might not be able to, you know, live there all the time right now. And you might not have to one day, but if you do, it’s there and if not, the memories are gonna be last a lifetime.
Lynette Zang:
Right. It’s still there. And I, you know, I was thinking of that this morning and I was looking at the pictures of my grandkids and I was when I was getting ready and I thought, you know what, you know, they’re gonna eventually bring their babies here. At least that’s my hope. And so that it can go on from generation to generation. And in the meantime we’ll plenty of food to eat up there. So I won’t have to, you know, bring things up the hill because we’ll have it all on site and be truly as independent. And self-sufficient within a great little community. That’s really, that’s the best, you know, I think that’s about the best protection that you can have that. And of course you gotta have real money. So when you go down the hill, you actually have something to work with. So the gold and the silver as you’ve brought out in worn torn countries are all it’s, it’s vitally important. It’s all important Food, Water, Shelter, Energy Security, Barterability, Wealth Preservation, Community. You gotta have it all, to have a nice reasonable standard of living. And would you tell people how to get ahold of you where they can find you? And of course we’ll have all the links below as well.
Curtis Teets:
Yeah. Just if you link to our website really the website’s just to kind of bring to a number, how to reach us, just really call that number. You’ll you’ll get me or Sean and it’s, it’s a very intimate customer base. So we wanna be able to, it’ll be me, Sean, to talk to you. And we have certain steps and processes about how we kind of go about initially getting with you about your needs and what you what you’re looking for. But really the website will take you to a number and that gets us right to me or Sean.
Lynette Zang:
And I can, and I can vouch for the fact of how organized these guys are and how on top of things. And they really will help you think of things, you know, I mean, if you call them, but they’ll help you think about things that just didn’t even occur to you. And, and, you know, that’s all being prepared in every single area. So I know I have enjoyed it so far. It’s made me feel a whole lot safer and more secure and the ability that I’ll have to take care of my family and the community around me, because it’s important to integrate. Is there anything else that you would like to say in closing?
Sean Connelly:
No, I appreciate, you know, the time it’s definitely anybody has any questions we’re happy to, to discuss and see how we can help.
Curtis Teets:
Yep, absolutely. It’s a pleasure working with you.
Lynette Zang:
Oh, it’s, it’s been my pleasure too, cause the time to get prepared is now.
Sean Connelly:
Yeah. We’re glad to be part of your team now and we’re glad to be continuous to be, continue to be part of your team in the future.
Lynette Zang:
I’m looking forward to it too, and we’ll have another update as we move forward and as we get even more things done and maybe after we have that one simulation where not looking forward to being shot at, with a <laugh> pellet gun, but I’d rather that than a real bullet. And I wanna make sure that I can keep my head if God forbid something like that should actually come to pass. But unfortunately I see it. Unfortunately I do. So I hope you guys got a lot out of this video today and all of the links for Sean and Curtis are below, but you know, if we can impart anything, it is to move forward. Don’t be stuck because I think it was you Sean that said, you know that by not doing anything. Mm that’s a choice too. And it’s not a choice that’s gonna serve you. Well, because we only have options until we don’t and you aren’t gonna know even one second before that actually happens. So do it. Now I can tell you, I feel really good about where I’m at and as you heard, I’m not finished yet. So, but the sooner you start, the sooner, you’re the closer you’re gonna be to finishing the more prepared you will be. And I mean, I think that’s everything. So until next we meet, please be safe out there. Bye-bye.
Sean Connelly:
Thank you Lynette.
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